"Mainstream" outdoor kit - how expensive?

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"Mainstream" outdoor kit - how expensive?

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I was in a "proper" ( :roll: ) outdoor shop the other day and saw they had waterproof jackets costing £500 :shock:

I've not really been anywhere near mainstream outdoor gear for years now, making do with comparatively basic clothes layered sensibly for the conditions. Five hundred quid for a jacket is lunacy - never mind the cost of the things you'll be wearing under it. The illusion that it'll keep you warmer/ drier/ safer 'cos it costs more is ridiculous. The bloke in the shop says people regularly come in and buy them without blinking. The world has gone mad.

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When I were a lad a loaf of bread were 15p....

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Bread? When i were a lad, we had to eat rocks. And thats after 26 hours in't Mill.
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I think to some degree you get what you pay for but that is ridiculous. Part of it is also the DFS mentality of huge RRPs that then appear to be heavily discounted to more realistic prices.
My gore tex berghaus jacket had an RRP of £300 but I bought it at about £130 which was much more suitably priced!
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I can imagine the tears as they thrutch up a granite chimney in the 'gorms with no protection for 30' to the sound of their sobs just about drowning out the sound of ripping Goretex...... oh wait no... it'll be worn down the pub or walking the dog :lol:
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In my opinion they only charge prices like that because there are plenty of idiots out there only to willing to pay stupid money for stuff because they equate expense with best and best with better personal performance or even worse to pose and sneer at people who have lesser kit. Let the fxxxwits waste there money!
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A North Face Changabang Gore Tex jacket was £300 in 1996 or thereabouts, so probably nothing new. As with bikes, at the sensible money end stuff is far better vfm.
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Top prices equals top kit in many peoples eyes, and when they are going for an extreme walk in the hills they'll need it. And it looks good walking the dog in the park.

But then some people pay thousands for a pushbike.......then just ride it round some hills!

It's all relative, and it gives me things to buy on eBay when these people sell their good kit in unused condition :-bd
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johnnystorm wrote:A North Face Changabang Gore Tex jacket was £300 in 1996 or thereabouts, so probably nothing new.
That.

There has always been expensive stuff around. Thankfully, some folk buy it. That means the features/materials etc slowly work their way down into "lower end" kit.

Does no one else remember 3-layer GoreTex Taslan then?
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Oh yes, built to last and stiff as a board. :grin:
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I guess I'm getting grumpy/tight in my old age :|
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Ian wrote:I guess I'm getting grumpy/tight in my old age :|
I can see your point, I guess the difference was that back at Uni the only people I knew with £300 Gore Tex jackets were all walkers/climbers and you wouldn't see everyone on the high street wearing them.*


*Ok, it was Bangor, Gore Tex was essential. ;)
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In fairness, have you seen the price of some "fashion" clothing. I know nothing about fashion, but come across some fashion type clothing and it costs more than decent outdoor kit, only lasts 1 season and is useless at doing anything other than "looking cool". :???:
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johnnystorm wrote:Ok, it was Bangor, Gore Tex was essential. ;)
What year(s) were you in Bangor?

I did my degree there too :smile:
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Ian wrote:
johnnystorm wrote:Ok, it was Bangor, Gore Tex was essential. ;)
What year(s) were you in Bangor?

I did my degree there too :smile:
96-99 and then back in 2000 for my PGCE

Most of my expenditure was at The Great Arete! :lol:
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I was 94-98, but with 97 away on a placement year. Happy days :cool:
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I was in primary school then :lol:
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Ian wrote:I was 94-98, but with 97 away on a placement year. Happy days :cool:
Well waddya know! You'd remember my bike from back then, I couldn't ever get the self energising brakes to stop squealing! :lol:
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In my last year I had a Peugeot "racer", as we called them back then, with ridiculously high gearing that I used to ride up Lon Pobty at full tilt. It was the only way to actually make it up!
You'd occasionally see my orange Orange E3 locked up outside the Thoday Building at the bottom of the hill.
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Most effective waterproof item I have is my skin. It's so good I try to keep it dry, like carrying two umbrellas, one to keep the other dry. I have worn some seriously expensive kit to go mostly nowhere and cheap as chips poor show for going on a mega adventure. I sweat too much and get wet anyway so have eventually come to accept that being warm is more important than staying dry.

And the best way to stay warm and dry is to avoid getting wet and cold.
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Two umbrellas, how do you steer the bike? :shock:


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Yorlin wrote:Two umbrellas, how do you steer the bike? :shock:


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That's why I think a tandem would work. :lol:
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Was it arcteryx? If so, their kit is well with the money. Have plenty of items by them but they certainly last (my softshell is 8 years old and still looks new despite doing everything in it)
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Hmm turns out bike umbrella holders are a thing. V practical...

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