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Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:06 am
by Bearbonesnorm
The BB200 route has just been emailed to all those entered. If you've entered and haven't received an email containing the route check your spam folder. If it isn't there, then email stuart@bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk

Thank you ;)

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:01 pm
by Pyro
Stu, I'm not entered, but would you be able to send me the route as well? Would be interested to see where you're headed. Email's carrickarmer (at) gmail (dot) com. Cheers!

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:50 pm
by Ian
Hmmm...

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:54 pm
by numplumz
Can't see it yet but on the evidence of the C2C trip I hope your after ride food fairys are prepared to stay up late. :?

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:56 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Hmmm...
What's up Mr Barrington?

Pyro ... YGM

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:08 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Numplumz, don't panic ... food will be served all night if need be ;)

Oddly, Get-a-map give a total ride time for the route of something like 16 hours :shock:

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:13 pm
by Ian
Well, I've only just opened them up, but my first problem is the file configuration.

The GPX file consists of 1400 odd way points and no "track" to upload to GPS, so I've got to spend however long
creating a track along the line of your waypoints unless I can think of a workaround. As a result, from first impressions, I can't see how much climbing is involved or see a route profile or to see how close your route is to 200km :?

Having ridden a lot of similar sort of terrain this week (in fine weather, I might add), I'd say it looks pretty hard*, but I've yet to study it in great depth, though some sections I recognise well. Not wanting to make a complaint on the route per se, but I was expecting to go over the Drygarn the other (i.e. correct) way ;)

* edit - not that I was expecting it to be easy, of course.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:19 pm
by MM-on-POINT
ok my prob is a I.T issue i cant view files using my windows 7 im getting a 84bit 64 bit incompatibility check system version icon pop up when i extract files to view files

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:31 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
You should be able to view the route profile on the get-a-map website.

Is everyone trying to use the single route gpx file or the 3 part one ? The 3 part one should have less waypoints and has worked on gps fine.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:44 pm
by j.c.gillies
The route looks good, just hope my legs are up to the task after 3 weeks off the bike. The route works just fine. I've uploaded the route via bikehike.co.uk and it gives me 4459 m of ascent. I can donwload from that website in to a number of different formats ie a gpx track (but I just used Base Camp to create tracks from the routes). All is good :)

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:09 am
by Bearbonesnorm
I can donwload from that website in to a number of different formats ie a gpx track
Yes indeed, put the gpx file from the email into bikehike.co.uk and then convert it into a gpx track file if that's what you're after.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:56 am
by Matt
Clock wise?

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:02 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Clock wise?
No! ... Anti-clockwise just like it said on the email ;) Clockwise means the route gets harder the further you go, anti-clockwise will ease the pain towards the end :shock:

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:13 am
by Ian
Thanks for the email on the track. Much better, but as Matt says the track goes clockwise not anticlockwise.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:52 am
by Nick
The full gpx goes anti-clockwise (at least it does once I've loaded it into Quo, not tried it on anything else).

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:55 am
by Nick
I've uploaded the route via bikehike.co.uk and it gives me 4459 m of ascent.
Hmmm, Quo is saying 5437m of ascent.............

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:45 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I don't suppose it really makes much difference whether the total ascent is 600m or 6000m ... you're still going to have to ride it ;)

Just to clarify, the route runs anti-clockwise so you'll have to hit the 'reverse route' button on bikehike if yours is showing clockwise.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:04 pm
by j.c.gillies
I'd not get to hung up on the ascent, programs always differ, I always +- up to 900m. All I know is that over 4000m for 200km using bikehike makes it lumpy, which is fine, we are cycling in Wales.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:33 pm
by Nick
Well if it's all the same with you I'll be believing Bike Hike :)

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:08 am
by Blackhound
Just looking at route and wondered about re-supply. Am I right in thinking that Elan Valley (about 3k off route on way out) is the first opportunity. After that it will be Ffair-Rhos or Pontryhdfendigaid?

Have not quite worked out what time I may make it to these places. And what about Sunday opening in the more remote places. Elan Valley visitor centre on return should be ok I guess.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:23 am
by Taylor
On the return leg, the Spar at Rhayader will be open and maybe the news agent in Llangurig but that'll prolly only be for the morning if at all.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:18 am
by Bearbonesnorm
There's a shop in Pontrhydfendigaid (SN730 664) which is well stocked and always busy ... may make a good supply point before the more remote stretches.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:54 am
by Ian
Having had a look at this in more detail, I think navigation in the dark might be more straight forward than I imagined as there are good road sections further round. As the route goes up Devil's Staircase, it might be an advantage to do it in the dark...

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:56 am
by Bearbonesnorm
As the route goes up Devil's Staircase, it might be an advantage to do it in the dark...
*Is that so you can't see it? ;)

*Those who don't know what I mean ... will.

Re: Bear Bones 200 Route Details.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:24 pm
by Blackhound
Thanks for help for resupply.

I see a few places where I could kip but still have no real feeling where I can get to.

Managed to get maps printed through memory map after a few attempts. Case of turning printer off and on again!

Are folks bothering with stoves? It's more weight and space against hot meal and drink. Decision I may make at short notice.