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Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:15 pm
by BridlewayBimbler
Evening all. I'm.pretty sure the answer is 'yes' but I just wanted to check whether an 11/12 speed Shimano HG freehub would work with a 9 speed cassete?

Thanks :grin:

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:23 pm
by fatbikephil
Yup!

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:25 pm
by BridlewayBimbler
fatbikephil wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:23 pmYup!
Cheers, Phil :-bd

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:18 pm
by Bearlegged
Shimano 12 speed isn't HG, it uses the Microspline pattern.

8/9/10/11 Shimano MTB all uses the same freehub, road is a bit different*.

*Awkward

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:42 pm
by BridlewayBimbler
Bearlegged wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:18 pm Shimano 12 speed isn't HG, it uses the Microspline pattern.

8/9/10/11 Shimano MTB all uses the same freehub, road is a bit different*.

*Awkward
Thanks. The wheelset I was looking at stated came with HG freehubs, and also some SRAM XD's? :???:

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:39 pm
by PaulE
HG is the 8-11 speed, the 12 speed is called microspline.

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:07 pm
by Lazarus
Hg will take 12 speed just not a shimano 12 speed casette # more effing standards no one asked for

I have 12 speed on an hope pro 2 for example and that is from 9 speed days

Road.casetted and frehubs are a bit wider (1.> mm iirc) so you need a spacer for a mtb casette on road wheels and a road wont go on * to mtb freewheels

* technically you can remove material from the rrear of a road casette with a lathe or some such

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:30 pm
by Alpinum
BridlewayBimbler wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:42 pm
Bearlegged wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:18 pm Shimano 12 speed isn't HG, it uses the Microspline pattern.

8/9/10/11 Shimano MTB all uses the same freehub, road is a bit different*.

*Awkward
Thanks. The wheelset I was looking at stated came with HG freehubs, and also some SRAM XD's? :???:
SRAM XD is nothing for Shimano cassette users.
It's for SRAM's Eagle and Transmission cassettes. Clear? :roll: :lol:

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:33 pm
by Alpinum
Oh... and there's SRAM XD and XD road...
At least they're trying. I just wonder what :lol:

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:29 am
by PaulB2
Then there’s the prototype SRAM and Shimano 13 speeds that have been seen from afar on pro bikes. I wonder if they have to use different free hubs. I think EKAR uses the normal Campy freehub

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:11 am
by Hyppy
PaulB2 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:29 am I think EKAR uses the normal Campy freehub
Kinda: Ekar uses N3W, which is backwards compatible, but you can't fit Ekar cassettes on an older Campag freehub.

Re: Hub/cassete compatability query

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:41 am
by PaulE
Lazarus wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:07 pm Hg will take 12 speed just not a shimano 12 speed casette # more effing standards no one asked for

I have 12 speed on an hope pro 2 for example and that is from 9 speed days

Road.casetted and frehubs are a bit wider (1.> mm iirc) so you need a spacer for a mtb casette on road wheels and a road wont go on * to mtb freewheels

* technically you can remove material from the rrear of a road casette with a lathe or some such
If you need a road cassette skimming down to fit, I've done a few and am happy to modify them if needed. Only works easily on cassettes with an aluminium carrier though, not the cheap all steel ones.