but it looks so good in an odd kind of way.

Reminds me of a bobber motorbike for some reason and I like them but I'm not usually a fan of customised bicycles.

I like that. Makes some sense for an E-stay design (flawed but still..) and it looked balanced. ...in a way : )

Just because you can, ......

Seriously fugly imo, but if a 36er would like to try it.

Ooh another example from Truebike - again, it'll not be for everyone but I really like it. Especially the forks.

Yup, prefer the second one. Do you really need suspension with 36in wheels?

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:36 pm but it looks so good in an odd kind of way.

Same here.

Just a question of time. Genius things have just about always been laughed at at first.

I'm sure they go round corners like... a squirrel with rabies. That's all that counts.

The second is a double-bagger.

As for the first, well. It's like one of those movies where they drop the stone into the dark hole and wait for it to hit the bottom, and wait, and wait ...... Well that bike is still falling through the ugly tree like the cinematic-stone and whilst it's doing so it's hitting every branch on the way down and getting uglier, and uglier, and uglier.

I guess I don't like it

I like the second one - the first doesn't so much look like its been hit by the ugly tree but by the entire forest.

I really want to not like it... but also really want a ride on either of them

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:30 am I like the second one - the first doesn't so much look like its been hit by the ugly tree but by the entire forest.

I have it differently with ugliness. I'm fascinated by it in a way that it's quite positive.

Alpinum wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:44 am I have it differently with ugliness. I'm fascinated by it in a way that it's quite positive.

Ah you've met the good lady Mrs Perrin then?

RIP wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:33 pm

Alpinum wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:44 am I have it differently with ugliness. I'm fascinated by it in a way that it's quite positive.

Ah you've met the good lady Mrs Perrin then?

Please elaborate.

Alpinum wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:04 pm Please elaborate.

You can't do that to a Lady!

19kg. Not just the wheel size that makes them roll over everything then.

I'd like a go on one.

Oli.vert wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:15 pm

Alpinum wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:04 pm Please elaborate.

[...]You can't do that to a Lady![...]

I live by different standards.
As bad as this sounds, I'll let it stand as it is. Because
I live by different standards.

Actually I'm getting Mrs Perrin confused with the mother-in-law.....

Alpinum wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:44 am

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:30 am I like the second one - the first doesn't so much look like its been hit by the ugly tree but by the entire forest.

I have it differently with ugliness. I'm fascinated by it in a way that it's quite positive.

I don't mind the elevated stays and I'd like a closer look at the whole junction around the crankset because it does look intriguing in a 'wtf?' way but the double crown fork and handlebar setup is just a step too far for me

RIP wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:47 pm Actually I'm getting Mrs Perrin confused with the mother-in-law.....

If the top photo shows Mrs. Perrin I must say quite the beauty. Hoping to see... I mean meet her in the wild sometime.

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:00 pm but the double crown fork and handlebar setup is just a step too far for me

Pure awesomeness. The best part besides the wheels.

Diamond frame shapes, not too many curves, unless cruiser like made. That's how they'de get me even more interested. A friend know Waltworks - has one of his first FS bikes. I remember seeing diamond frames for 36" (could've been 32") coming from his "garage".