advice on improved woodcock C2C

[techno]

I'm thinking of doing a C2C next year probably based on the woodcock c2c but modified want to make it as rideable as possible.
I'm looking for some advice on altering the western end of the route.
This is what i've come up so far: https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=qwcdzeyelpiftsuz

Ta.

[RIP]

Best thing about that route is it goes straight past (ie. into) the Ennerdale Brewery at Rowrah at the western end

[techno]

Best thing about that route is it goes straight past (ie. into) the Ennerdale Brewery at Rowrah at the western end

That part can stay exactly as it is then
Thanks for the tip off reg!

[Chew]

Road the route several years ago, with a few changes.

I'd leave the Lakes section as it is, as it sets up the character of the ride and gives you some of the iconic bits, such as black sail and mosedale.

I'd amend the section before Tan Hill as the original bridleway doesnt exist.
Through Swaledale, it depends if you want to go via Apedale as you'll loose a lot of height on the drop back to Grinton. There some pleasant BOATS that run from Gunnerside to Grinton on the south side of the Swale.
Looks like you've found the offroad option from Reeth.

[techno]

Thanks chew, will look at those asap and post a link when it's done

[techno]

Road the route several years ago, with a few changes.

I'd leave the Lakes section as it is, as it sets up the character of the ride and gives you some of the iconic bits, such as black sail and mosedale.

I'd amend the section before Tan Hill as the original bridleway doesnt exist.
Through Swaledale, it depends if you want to go via Apedale as you'll loose a lot of height on the drop back to Grinton. There some pleasant BOATS that run from Gunnerside to Grinton on the south side of the Swale.
Looks like you've found the offroad option from Reeth.

I think I've implemented your suggestions here chew: https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=qwcdzeyelpiftsuz
knocked a bit of climbing off which will suit my flatlanders legs

[boxelder]

the section from Sadgill to the A6 near Shap is, as the name suggests, very wet (Wetsleddale). There are drier options to Tebay further south.

[techno]

the section from Sadgill to the A6 near Shap is, as the name suggests, very wet (Wetsleddale). There are drier options to Tebay further south.

thanks, i'll look at that soon.

[techno]

the section from Sadgill to the A6 near Shap is, as the name suggests, very wet (Wetsleddale). There are drier options to Tebay further south.

how's this look: https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=gcupcywmgqjxmdtj

[whitestone]

The last bit just before Kirkby Stephen might be better a bit to the south going via Smardale Bridge. It looks like you are aiming to pick up the original route ASAP. Going a bit further south cuts out a bit of road.

[techno]

The last bit just before Kirkby Stephen might be better a bit to the south going via Smardale Bridge. It looks like you are aiming to pick up the original route ASAP. Going a bit further south cuts out a bit of road.

cheers bob. You mean something like this?: https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=qwcdzeyelpiftsuz

[whitestone]

The last bit just before Kirkby Stephen might be better a bit to the south going via Smardale Bridge. It looks like you are aiming to pick up the original route ASAP. Going a bit further south cuts out a bit of road.

cheers bob. You mean something like this?: https://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=qwcdzeyelpiftsuz

Yes. Also I'd be inclined to stay north of the A685 between Kelleth and Brownber on the minor road, you aren't gaining much by using the BW to the south that goes through Bowderdale farm.

[techno]

Yes. Also I'd be inclined to stay north of the A685 between Kelleth and Brownber on the minor road, you aren't gaining much by using the BW to the south that goes through Bowderdale farm.

Smashing, will amend accordingly.
Great to get local knowledge from you all, cheers guys

[In Reverse]

How long do you reckon it will take Andy?

[techno]

How long do you reckon it will take Andy?

I dunno, there's a sub standard load of climbing (nearly 9000m). I reckon 3 long days for an average cyclist like me. 2 mental days for an athlete.
Anyone else got a guess?
Didn't someone do the woodcock route in sub 24hrs?

[PaulB]

23hr 16min according to Self Supported. In the words of Fred... 'good effort'.