pannier rack

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:07 pm

hi everyone , just found this forum , and as i'm totally new to bikepacking i have a few questions lol

the bike i would like to use is my giant defy adv pro 2 disc , but i can't seem to find a suitable rack which would fit it for panniers , would anyone know if there is indeed such a rack to fit this bike , its also all carbon .

if there is nothing suitable pannier wise , what else would you recommend for stowage , my tent is a vango chinook 2 man which i expect isn't the lightest at 3.7kg , so that was one of the reasons i was looking at panniers , where i would be able to lie the tent across the top or between the panniers .

my only other bike is a full blown racing bike , and i can't afford a one thats bikepacking specific

i would really like to give this a go but i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment

appreciate any help you can give me

whitestone · Post by **whitestone** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:19 pm

The potential problem is the carbon frame of your bike. While it should be OK, it's not really designed to have point loads where you'd fit a pannier rack especially when bouncing around off-road.

One option might be something like the Arkel Radonneur - https://www.ghyllside.co.uk/arkel-rando ... 5-M55NKjwM My wife uses one on her fat bike as the doesn't have enough room to use a bikepacking style saddle bag.

A second option would be to split the tent up and have it in different places on the bike: poles across the front of the handlebars, etc.

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:20 pm

Have you any rack eyelets either on the forks or frame? If not, then I'd steer well clear of using a rack (more so than usual) as whatever you use to fit a rack won't be brilliant and will always be something of a bodge.

lune ranger · Post by **lune ranger** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:09 pm

As above.
Look at ways of reducing the bulk of your gear and getting the largest set of bikepacking bags you can fit.
It needn't mean spending ridiculous amounts of money.
Racks are harder and harder to mount now on bikes with no eyelets or canti bosses.
I have no experience of it myself but I've seen a few threads on here of broken carbon frames from attaching things like racks, mudguards even! And manufacturers don't honour guarantees in these circumstances

benp1 · Post by **benp1** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:28 pm

presumably it's for on the road touring/bikepacking. in which case you'd surely be fine with a rack that uses the rear QR?

you can get a seat post clamp that has the rack mounts built into it. the ally defy is pannier compatible

Alternatively, you could pop a carradice something on your seat

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:10 pm

thanks for the info , yes benp1 it's road touring , where would I get the seatpòst clamp with rack mounts built in from

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:13 pm

and what rack would fit the seat post mount and attach to the QR .....sorry for all the questions

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:28 pm

where would I get the seatpòst clamp with rack mounts built in from

Salsa do a nice one.

and what rack would fit the seat post mount and attach to the QR

Have a look at Old Man Mountain racks. http://www.oldmanmountain.com/

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:42 pm

would this fit Topeak Super Tourist DX F/Disc Rack
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... d|538428UK

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:43 pm

also the seat post on my giant defy is not totally round it has a flat on the back

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:45 pm

Probably although most racks require a little bit of 'fitting' in order to get them on and secure.

also the seat post on my giant defy is not totally round it has a flat on the back

Is the outside of the seat tube round? That's what matters with regard to fitting a new post clamp.

Chew · Post by **Chew** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:53 pm

Bearbonesnorm wrote:Is the outside of the seat tube round? That's what matters with regard to fitting a new post clamp.

Not on the Defy's.
Plus top of the seat tube isnt square either

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:23 pm

just found this for the giants D-post

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/giant ... eat-collar

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:28 pm

Just the job

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:33 pm

just need an appropriate rack now to go with the d-post collar ??

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:52 pm

What's wrong with the one you posted earlier from CRC?

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:18 pm

hopefully nothing , but i'd have to make sure it would actually fit before i shelled out on it , would be idel if a bike shop local to me sold them , i'll have to try and find out

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:22 pm

If you find it doesn't fit I'm sure you could return it ... however, sometimes it can be difficult to know until you actually try and with racks, trying may involve a little bending of brackets.

benp1 · Post by **benp1** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:58 pm

Looks like you've found the right clamp. They made that clamp to let the defy be fitted with a rack

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:57 pm

yep just wish i could source a giant defy specific rack , you'd think if they made the seatpost clamp they'd make a rack to go with it

psling · Post by **psling** » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:24 pm

musomaniac wrote:yep just wish i could source a giant defy specific rack , you'd think if they made the seatpost clamp they'd make a rack to go with it

Well, if you click on 'Racks & Mounts' on the page referred to above for the Giant Seat Collar you will find their range of racks....

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:21 am

psling wrote:Well, if you click on 'Racks & Mounts' on the page referred to above for the Giant Seat Collar you will find their range of racks....

i don't think any of those will fit , for one my bike is disc , and the dropouts are recessed where the skewer ends sit , none of those rack mounting legs look as though they would fit in the recess

musomaniac · Post by **musomaniac** » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:25 am

i'm now wondering if this one would fit , as it keeps the panniers away from the heel of the foot on crank rotation , total minefield this rack malarkey

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Axiom-Streamli ... B004094HY2

Bearbonesnorm · Post by **Bearbonesnorm** » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:44 am

i'm now wondering if this one would fit

It's unlikely that any rack will just bolt straight on perfectly as they're a universal item, however that also means that within reason, you can make any rack fit ... the problem is, you won't know where along that scale any rack lies until you try it.

psling · Post by **psling** » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:36 am

Bearbonesnorm wrote:It's unlikely that any rack will just bolt straight on perfectly as they're a universal item...

The OP should email Giant - they actually list Racks and a Disc Rack Adaptor to be used with their own racks to fit their bikes.

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