That'll keep the legal team happy....

[johnnystorm]

https://www.alpkit.com/products/love-mud-confucius

Now, where did I put Greg's puking gnome....

[Artie Fufkin]

I thought they were BMX handlebars at first, but then realised I was looking at my computer screen from a different angle.
Hmm!

[Bearbonesnorm]

Think I'm looking at them the wrong way round ... they appear to be a pair of 70's scramble bars if you imagine the loop as the bottom and the main bar as a brace.

[johnnystorm]

Great minds!

[whitestone]

Buy now before the legal eagles get in there

[GregMay]

Stu - buy a set - mount them like that - enjoy the hate it would entail :)

[whitestone]

Looking at that shot Stu, I thought about the Raleigh Chopper

[benp1]

Well they had to develop them quite a bit from the design they had before (Fu Man Chu?), as it was too much of a ripoff of the Jones Loops

They're not pretty, but they're wide!

[HaYWiRe]

Aside from the extra hand positions (and potential legal fallout) wouldn't these be useful for supporting a bag up front?

I can see the extra bar being useful for adding more structure to a bar harness mounting across both bars, similar to some jones setups (without the overly touring geometry) or like some road tourers are doing strapping drybags under aerobars for lateral support.

Or stick one on top for full hate
and "wicker basket" appeal

Hell, I like them. Atleast it'll look better than my experiments with putting aero bars on a mountain bike

[ctznsmith]

use of the phrase 'loop bars' in the description is surely asking for trouble? Look like a bar for all those mounting bar ends inboard.

[Adventurer]

Will Alpkit be doing new fitted bag to go in the middle of the loop?

I've not long bought a One One OG bar which when I first replaced my flat bar, and found it very strange at first. But I must say I do find it very comfy.
I was thinking about putting some bar ends in the middle of the OG bar to give me added hand positions.
I suppose this alpkit bar is similar but without the back sweep.

[restlessshawn]

Think I'm looking at them the wrong way round ... they appear to be a pair of 70's scramble bars if you imagine the loop as the bottom and the main bar as a brace.

Weirdly I was thinking about motorbike handlebars the other day and wondered how a set of Jota bars would work on an mtb so you could adjust the sweep to suit...I may have been drinking at the time and have not pursued the idea...

[jameso]

That's cool. I've wanted a bolt-on bit like that for a while. Never did quite get over my love of Scott AT4s..

There's a carbon bar I've seen that does a similar thing with an open loop / long bar end type fitting. Looked good, but expensive. Bar ends inside the grips are a great addition for long rides and this adds a spot for the gps, lights etc.

To be fair all round I suspect that the Jones side of things would only be dissapointed to see a copy of his ideas out there, it wouldn't be a legal thing. More respect to a company that could but doesn't copy ideas too closely and has their own take on instead. Sometimes 2 companies come up with similar ideas independantly, the loop bar is a fair 'signature' thing for Jones though. But if you don't like swept bars ..

[Bearbonesnorm]

Weirdly I was thinking about motorbike handlebars the other day and wondered how a set of Jota bars would work on an mtb so you could adjust the sweep to suit...I may have been drinking at the time and have not pursued the idea...

Oddly, I found a Jota bar in the barn last week ... bit sadly, only the one side

[thenorthwind]

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/erg ... gn=criteo2

Bit narrow.

Also

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/erg ... /aid:99351

if you can look past the nasty foam grips!

[adjustablewench]

at least you would be able to mount your light centrally at the front and free up a bit of space for everything else we pile on our bars. . .gps, front harness, assorted feed bags, over the harness bag, bear bell(?!), fluffy dice, lucky gonk, spare pencil etc etc

[jameso]

Both a bit narrow and carbon but looked almost useful, prefer Alpkit's take on it.

[Scattamah]

I like the Bonty ones there...could see those being useful. They don't have 'em on their website though. Probably good as I don't need any more outgoings.

Greetz

S.

[HaYWiRe]

Adjustable sweep bars...learn something new everyday...

Aside from some doubt in the stiffness or strength of them should they go proper offroad, I'm surprised that they're not more popular on commuting or folding bikes? Seems a better idea than those QR stems that turn


In general though ive found myself caring a little less about "touring" bars, I dont really tour I just ride and camp. And to me, the point in bikepacking is you can do it on any bike and it shouldn't change how it rides too much, that's just my thoughts though. Wide flat bars for XC and trails, compact drops for road, luggage works around those, they don't change because of luggage. Ive come to this decision after plenty of silly looking combinations of bars,stems,extenders and aerogrips....looked ridiculous, comfy and stable for touring, but just got in the way of having fun on a bike offroad.

I still like them, and think they look a great solution for cheap but after a closer look they're not for me. Certainly won't make me more comfortable when I'm tumbling down a stupid wrong turn Black trail with 5kg of luggage bouncing about the place all holding on for dear life

[mountainbaker]

I think the only good thing about them is that they are at least named after someone from their country of manufacture

[fatbikephil]

I take it this bar would be the product of the discussions Alpkit had with Jeff Jones over their original total rip off concept. Good way of mounting a bar roll without having to mount it to the head tube but not enough sweep for comfy wrists...

My entry in the 'which motorbike bars would you use on your mountainbike' competition - renthal 'Desert Bars' - 900mm wide, 170mm rise and 20 degrees sweep

[Ian]

20 replies and not a single Confucius quote....

[GregMay]

https://www.alpkit.com/products/love-mud-confucius

Now, where did I put Greg's puking gnome....

Just for you buddy

[johnnystorm]

[Alpinum]

I take it this bar would be the product of the discussions Alpkit had with Jeff Jones over their original total rip off concept. Good way of mounting a bar roll without having to mount it to the head tube but not enough sweep for comfy wrists...

My entry in the 'which motorbike bars would you use on your mountainbike' competition - renthal 'Desert Bars' - 900mm wide, 170mm rise and 20 degrees sweep

Wow... now that's a bar

(Again no Confucius quote... )