Cairngorm loop May B/H

ZeroDarkBivi · Post by **ZeroDarkBivi** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:37 pm

Many thanks for the met ground truth! Could be a showstopper for me given the travel involved...

GregMay · Post by **GregMay** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:14 am

Hmmm... ok. I think we will probably travel up. But bring running/walking kit with us as well.

Will make a call when I get up there.

AlasdairMc · Post by **AlasdairMc** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:35 am

I think if it's looking horrible we could abandon the full route and do a hybrid inner/outer. I'm going to dress for late winter and make a decision on the day. Fords of Avon is my first concern, although if that's bad I'd consider retreat to Ryvoan and then outer loop to Braemar, pray for the Geldie to be down and bin it down Glen Tilt.

GregMay · Post by **GregMay** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:50 am

Not a bad idea as a bail out.

fatbikephil · Post by **fatbikephil** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:53 pm

Mind it snowed when Aiden Harding did his 22 hour time!

I'll be hopefully doing some bikepacking around the cairngorms so if you see a Surly Ice Cream truck it'll be me. If its looking snowy then grab yer fatbikes guys. I did the CL on mine last august in 35 hours...

AlasdairMc · Post by **AlasdairMc** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:37 pm

I am actually in two minds about bringing my fat bike up. I think I'll stick with my Stooge unless the weather gets significantly worse over the next few days. If anything the big tyres will give me some flotation for the river crossings...

ScotRoutes · Post by **ScotRoutes** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:38 pm

Would it be handy if I posted some updates as the week progresses?

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:41 pm

Yes please

flat_4 · Post by **flat_4** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:42 am

I'm out. Been ill since Saturday (which rather buggered up Liege-Bastogne-Liege as well), hoped it would clear up but no such luck.

Gutted.

Hope everyone that goes has a safe and enjoyable ride.

GregMay · Post by **GregMay** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:22 am

Had a nice evening chat with my wife over concerns with rivers and snow levels. Her words "If it gets crap just turn around and ride down, or back" .

So, I'm going to throw in a pair of Primaloft trousers and stick to it. As Steves email says, if it's bad, outer loop TT. At least riding SS my derauilers can't freeze :)

ianfitz · Post by **ianfitz** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:28 pm

MWIS forecast for saturday:

Wind - Southeasterly, 15mph freshening through day toward 30mph, but by evening, increasing risk 40 or later 50mph. Small Starting small, but walking becoming
impeded, and late in day risk widely difficult.

How wet? - Very likely to remain dry all day. Risk overnight into Sunday, of heavy snow setting in across the region (rain only lowest slopes)

Cloud - Rare fragments of cloud on higher areas, but most summits often free of cloud. 80% chance of cloud free summits

How cold? - -3C at 900m freezing level 700m; but risk frost in many glens at dawn.

30-50mph wind is worth -8/10c in wind chill.

the Norwegians are forecasting lighter winds than that, MWIS tend to be pessimistic in my experience. Looking at the met office preasure charts (as a retired surfer) I'd say there is a high chance of 'brisk' east south easterlies from later on saturday and into sunday. There is a front that looks likely to produce some wet stuff during that time too.

worth looking at tomorrows forecasts and charts to see if there's any shift...

ScotRoutes · Post by **ScotRoutes** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:09 pm

Todays update from the Northern Cairngorms:
Snow level receding
Still cold
Thunder showers brought some significant sharp bursts of rain AND HAIL!!

fatbikephil · Post by **fatbikephil** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:06 pm

Yeah been following various forecasts and its looking OK for Sat and bit ropy Sunday. Highest point on the route is only 800m and river levels still looking OK so you'll all be fine!

AlasdairMc · Post by **AlasdairMc** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:21 pm

ianfitz wrote: a high chance of 'brisk' east south easterlies from later on saturday and into sunday.

Perfect timing for riding through Upper Glen Feshie, not so perfect for Abernethy...

boxelder · Post by **boxelder** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:20 am

Is there a trackleaders linky for us voyeurs?

ianfitz · Post by **ianfitz** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:28 am

boxelder wrote:Is there a trackleaders linky for us voyeurs?

I don't think so

ScotRoutes · Post by **ScotRoutes** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:44 am

Cairngorm Mountain have just posted that there's been 3" of fresh snow overnight.

Still nothing at lower levels but Bynack Mor should be interesting.

Oh - a post-ride update on the state of the track between Dorback Lodge and Tomintoul would be appreciated. TIA.

ianfitz · Post by **ianfitz** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:45 pm

After much agonising over a decision I'm out.

logistics in getting there were never ideal to begin with and I think ground and weather conditions will make it a different challenge from what I was hoping for. I'm up in Scotland at the end of the month half term holiday and will hope for more favourable conditions for an ITT.

Also it means I get to spend the bank holiday weekend away with the family which will be great (and add up to valuable brownie points!) there is an alternative plan for adventure over the next few days....

Best of luck to those who are man and woman enough to toe the start line on Saturday. Enjoy it and ride safe

GregMay · Post by **GregMay** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:38 pm

Right, I've re-packed the bike, added in some extra warm bits and some more food.

Ready to roll.

Gari · Post by **Gari** » Fri May 01, 2015 4:29 pm

It's been pretty cold here overnight but around 10 ish during the daytime. Just been for a ride and both the Tromie and Feshie are fairly low so I don't envisage any issues with river Xings. Today it has been a little showery bit no
rain to speak of. Good luck all, I shall keep my eyes open for likely looking candidates around the village.

AlasdairMc · Post by **AlasdairMc** » Sun May 03, 2015 5:12 pm

New record from Phil Simcock - 21:38. Awful conditions, a lot of bailouts and curtailments (myself included).

I did the inner loop to the Geldie and dropped down Glen Tilt, getting 92 miles and 13:24 of riding done. Several riders did the outer loop joining it at Ryvoan, avoiding the horrible snowy mess that was Bynack Mor and the Lairig an Laoigh...

Javi · Post by **Javi** » Sun May 03, 2015 7:15 pm

Wooww!! Big effort with this bad weather
I'vr just arrived to Blair Athol to meet the riders but it is a bit late.
Anyone about to arrive? Where's starting/finishing point? I'm at the tourist info car park.

boxelder · Post by **boxelder** » Sun May 03, 2015 7:50 pm

Finish is the big clock at the station is it not?

flat_4 · Post by **flat_4** » Sun May 03, 2015 8:17 pm

Wow! That's some time, especially considering the conditions! I assume he completed the full course as per Aiden's original record?

AlasdairMc · Post by **AlasdairMc** » Sun May 03, 2015 8:18 pm

Yep, finish is at the station clock. I don't know who is still out on the course.

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