New windshield.

[Bearbonesnorm]

New windshield for Brother Smith ... 8g stove derivative and Ruta Locura 450ml Ti mug. Shield's a similar shape to the template supplied with 8g stoves but with a few tweaks.

[benp1]

Can you show the pack size?

The only thing that has stopped me from getting an 8g is stability on uneven ground, does this help at all?

[Bearbonesnorm]

Can you show the pack size?

It rolls up and fits inside any 450ml mug ... Myticup, Snow Peak 450, Life Venture, etc.

The only thing that has stopped me from getting an 8g is stability on uneven ground, does this help at all?

The shield above is a snug fit around the mug, so the mug's supported by the stove and the shield, so it's very stable. The 8g comes with a template to make a tapered shield which makes it more stable / efficient, however hardly anyone bothers to make one and lots of folk use them with bigger pots anyway . I've been talked into making a couple of shields in the past, that allow the 8g to be used with a Mytimug with good results.

[Zippy]

The shield above is a snug fit around the mug, so the mug's supported by the stove and the shield, so it's very stable.

Hmmm, this sounds all very tempting

[benp1]

Interesting, I like it

What are the tweaks to make this different to the template one?

Also, have you made any tweaked stoves to use and esbit?

I take esbit as back up and my current set up lets me use either. It's a pocket stove ti with a Vaseline meths/esbit stove and foil windshield. But I rarely use the wood aspect and the meths stove isn't massively efficient

[Bearbonesnorm]

What are the tweaks to make this different to the template one?

The walls on this one are slightly steeper.

Also, have you made any tweaked stoves to use and esbit?

I have, one way up it's a meths stove and flip it over and it's esbit. However, it wouldn't be any good with this shield as the stove is too high for it. It could probably be made to work with a bigger pot where the shield could be taller and still fit inside for storage.

[benp1]

I'm using a snow peak 450- no way of getting a windshield big enough and still fit in the cup then?

I love that cup so don't want to stop using it!

is there an optimum esbit height? Wonder if I could use the Vaseline tin tray for esbit from my current set up. More to lose though...

[Bearbonesnorm]

no way of getting a windshield big enough and still fit in the cup then?

Not if you want to use the same stove to burn esbit and meths. Actually, as I'm typing, I've just thought that maybe a 2 piece shield might work ... potentially it could give you twice the height and still be stored in the mug.

is there an optimum esbit height?

Roughly 30mm but it alters a little depending on a few things ... but 30mm is a good starting point.

[barney]

are they going into mass-production Stu?

[benp1]

Does the esbit holder on the 8g stove have a pot stand built in?

Got any pics by any chance?

I have a feeling that an unnecessary purchase is coming up...!

[Bearbonesnorm]

are they going into mass-production Stu?

Possibly not mass production because they're fiddly but I think I will make them available.

Does the esbit holder on the 8g stove have a pot stand built in?

Yeah sort of. The stove has 'legs' which when upside down / in esbit mode act as pot supports.

I did think of a way (while trying to get to sleep) to allow the set-up like in the pic to work with both meths and esbit ... just need to try it and make sure my half asleep thinking is correct

[benp1]

Let me know when it becomes viable!

Esbit isn't a deal breaker, but it's a neat, stable and reliable way of carrying fuel around

[Bearbonesnorm]

Actually Ben, last nights thinking was okay ... a standard 8g stove can be turned upside down and used as an esbit stand. The addition of two stainless rods inserted through the top air vents act as mug supports and raise the mug 25mm - 30mm above the esbit. So, meths and solid fuel and all packable inside a standard 450ml mug

Sometimes it's hard to spot the obvious

[benp1]

What does the bottom of the 8g stove look like? Guessing it's not flat!

How much to make the set for a snow peak 450 inc postage?

[Bearbonesnorm]

What does the bottom of the 8g stove look like? Guessing it's not flat!

It's slightly concave, so the esbit would have somewhere to sit.

How much to make the set for a snow peak 450 inc postage?

Leave it with me Ben ... just got to make a 'hard' pattern.

[benp1]

Awesomes. I'll stop derailing this thread then!

[Mart]

I love my windshield (the same as this that Stu made for me)
It makes the 8g stove much more stable to use.
The stove continues to burn efficiently, but what I like about it is that more heat is transferred to the water in the cup (compared to my previous feeble attempt)