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That is Not Another Winter Event, organised by Shaff aka Redefined Cycles for those who can't make it to Wales. A few were interested and as per last year, Justin aka Gecko 76 was to provide my GR's. As usual I was slightly nervous when the GR's arrived as it would be very easy for him to send me on an absolute mission, all within 20 miles of the house. But Justin had provided 8 points which on inspection looked to be fairly straightforward. I did some route plotting and came up with an easy circuit bagging all 8 in about 83 miles. A couple were in places I'd not been to before but both on routes I'd been meaning to ride at some point so all good. The only minor blot was one on a bump I'd try to get up the other week but had failed due to fallen trees.

And speaking of which, Storm Eowyn had done it's work a few weeks ago. What would it's impact be on this route?

My first setback was slashing rain against the window when I surfaced after breakfast. A quick squint at the weather suggested more was to come, entirely at odds with what had been predicted in the run up to the weekend. I got the bike loaded and then procrastinated for an hour. Then the sun started shinning so I got going.

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First check, there would be many more. I fought my way round this lot but another, bigger block of windblow followed. This was on a dead end there and back again to GR1 so I abandoned the bike and climbed over them...

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Loch Glow in the Cleish Hills. The detritus of the fishery looked a bit forlorn with a large tree having demolished one of the storage sheds and stuff scattered everywhere thanks to the storm. I often go walking round here, and the various bumps in the background. I've seen an Osprey fishing here too!

Back to the bike then a few well known miles through Blair Adam Forest (lots of downed trees but all cleared thank goodness) and over the days first proper climb from Lochore to Loch Leven.

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GR2, Vane Farm visitor centre on Loch Leven National Nature Reserve. Looking over the loch, the bumps of the mid Ochills in the distance.

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A leisurely pedal round the loch took me to GR 3, this fine wee bridge over the 'back burn' into the loch. There is a good path all the way round Loch Leven, largely developed by one person pushing SNH / Nature Scot to fund it. SNH resisted it for years as they didn't want a load of plebs disturbing the various birdies but eventually relented after much lobbying on high. As it was built from nothing and immediately promoted for shared use, you never get any grief off walkers round here. It's just had a major re-surfacing job done to so a good local resource.

I decided to add in an extra loop from this point which would come back to haunt me later. More easy trails and back roads took me to Glen Farg village and a lengthy climb over the hills to Perthsire. As I left Glen Farg it was about twenty to five but I figured I'd still have daylight to bag the next point. This was a track I'd eyed up - a Perth and Kinross core path - over the flanks of various hills towards Kinross itself. A good track climb in the gloaming took me to a farm and a very barky dog then it was a bit damper with many cow prints beyond there. The good news it was easy to follow. Twas a bit soggy though and anything uphill defeated my one gear and weedy tyres. As usual in this circumstance, the 2k to the GR took ages and it was pretty much dark when I arrived -

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I took this on approach in case it was totally dark when I got there - GR4, an old Iron Age fort.

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Not quite dark - the old wall lines and ditches still clearly visible (well they would have been half an hour ago!) I got a brief glimpse of the next GR then fought my way back to the track out of there. This took a bit of faffing and my earlier extra loop (and late start) were much in my mind as I fumbled around to regain the track. Then it started raining. Then it started hailing and sleating. On with the gear and off down a somewhat soggy and rather steep track. The stormy took it in it's stride however. Finally it spat me out on a wee road, Kinross not far away.

That said I didn't fancy the next GR at this point as I'd no idea what the track up it would be like and didn't fancy a death march in the dark. Plus it should have a fine view off the top. A quick rethink of my route led me west towards Dunning. I'd do the three GR's in the hills the next morning and then ride back to grab this one as a finale. The rain eased off and at Dunning I procured a snack and a couple of beers for later. Then it was off up the steady climb to Glen Devon forest.

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Nearly forgot this one, GR5. Actually the cottage (Blaeberry Toll) you can't see behind me but I figured taking a photo might cause concern. This place came up for sale a couple of years ago and I was ever so slightly tempted given it's remote location. Would be hard work in the winter though and not much use when I get into my dotage!

I entered the forest thinking I'd head up to my usual bivvy spot from which it would be straightforward to make an attempt on the next GR the following morning. However more fallen trees blocked the way forward. There was probably a way round but I figured it would be better to go back to the road and try the lower entrance to the woods where logging works were going on, so the track would be clear. Then I spied a level area in the trees just up from where I was, that will do nicely! I'd barely got pitched up when a light appeared on the track - a jogger no less wearing one of those scotchlite covered jackets which illuminated hugely when I pointed my lid light at it. They ignored me, doubtless wondering what idiot would be out on a night like this. That said it was sheltered and whilst a few sprinkles of rain, hail and snow came in over night, nothing to disturb my esteemed repose.

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A good spot but in view of its proximity to one of the main tracks in this forest, not one I'd use again. What looked like the same jogger ran by as I was about to depart (they had the same type of jacket on in any case.)

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Bugger. There then followed much too-ing and fro-ing as I tried to pick my way round various blocks of fallen trees. The Scottish Enduro club used to use this forest and brashed out loads of trails as a result, so I was able to bypass some bits but eventually ended up in a tangled dead end. Much back tracking and ploughing through the undergrowth later and I finally got into where they are logging, and hopefully a clear route up to my next objective.

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The dimple in the distance is my next again GR! Picking up on an earlier comment from my January BAM report, Justin had, somewhat meanly, selected the hill - Black Creich - that I'd try to get to the top of that day, but failed due to fallen trees. Given what had taken place a fortnight a go, I had little hope of getting up this day, but I'd scoped out an alternative way up which might be clear. This was via another of the enduro trails which went over the flank of the hill, however I abandoned the bike for the final assault. I did get a fair way up, and within about 50m of the summit but....

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GR6 is in their somewhere...

Amusingly I couldn't find the bike on descending; stopping at one point to look all around, only for it to be 6 feet away, right behind me! Ahem. Anyway off back down to the road I went with some relief.

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Castlehill reservoir dam. Not often you see an arch concrete dam in the UK, most being earth or mass concrete. Stormy looking a bit bedraggled after all of that!

The next GR was my highest at 516m on Ben Shee. I'd been up here the other week on skis but by the looks, there was only a dusting of snow today. It's a fair old climb which I mainly pushed but finally, I got there, only for the cloud to come down. GR7 claimed though!

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I took the scenic route down a rough, grassy, tussocky descent with a nice off cambered bit to boot - 45mm tyres seem to cope remarkably well - and nearly came a cropper on a burn crossing which I always make a bit of a meal of. It's fairly modest but flows in a rocky channel which you have to step across with bike on shoulder. The rocks were wet and slippy and the burn looked very cold. However I got across with barely a stumble and rejoined the road once more. Which I stuck too down Glen Eagles with a view to bashing out the next section to the final GR as quick as I could. I was starving again so a diversion to Auchterarder was needed for yet another Co-op meal deal.

Then I got my head down and pedaled, vaguely aware that my planned easy route round all 8 GR's would end up being a convoluted double loop. My own fault for yesterdays tardiness! It was all on back roads for the most though.

Finally I got to the bottom of the hill on which my last GR sat and pushed on up a track that was easy enough, making me think I should have done it last night after all. And the generally damp / hazy weather meant the view was nothing to write home about in any case!

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GR8. The Iron Age fort is actually just above the trig point.

So home we go, but via another huge climb and various other undulations. I noted that it was starting to get dark as I finished the last miles so I was somewhat shocked when I realised it was after 5! I was even more shocked when my total mileage came out at 118 instead of my planned 83.

Cheers Justin for sending me on another adventure. I'll definitely be back to check out the hill fort in daylight at some point!
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118 rather than the planned 83 :o

Well done sir, and a great write up to boot. Those fallen trees would have foiled a lesser man.

Edit: and Happy Birthday :-bd
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Yep, excellent report that! Enjoyed the read. Quite a marathon with all that sleet and snow and so on. With a GR-bagging outing does the bike have to reach the GR as well as the rider I wonder :wink: .
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Thanks for that there report Phil. I enjoyed that and makes me more determined to go do my 33 miler loop (on 33mm tyres and maybe a bit of HAB). Reg, that's a very good question and this one is all at the riders discretion :lol:

Most likely I'll be sleeping on yhe living room floor (so a bit of cheating) before setting out. But, I'm not soft, honest :grin:

Lovely pics btw and thanks for explaining some of those details. Very considerate at not taking a flash/camera shot of someone's house at night. Would/could you have go shot, I wonder!
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RIP wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:47 pm With a GR-bagging outing does the bike have to reach the GR as well as the rider I wonder :wink: .
No. :grin:

The only way I'll be getting a bike to GR7 would be with a chainsaw. I've been to GR 1 dozens of times so my conscience is clear :mrgreen:
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:grin:
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RIP wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:47 pm With a GR-bagging outing does the bike have to reach the GR as well as the rider I wonder :wink: .
As per BAM I reckon, it just needs to involve* a bike.
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*Trollolol
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Right, attempt one. Failed. The first 5 paragraphs also lost as I was dragging the photos from Imgur!!

So, let's go with blah, blah blah and add the photos only and not the words. So annoying when it loses the writing :lol:

But, go on then. In a condensed and condemned version of them 5 paragraphs. I slept in a very very large bothy. Client had paid for the accomodation and it was an awake shift for me. So technically you could even argue a BAM rule 'ticking off'. Morning came, food after a farewell and off through the Peaks for the commute home, via the grid refs obviously.

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Most of the supplies devoured and it wasn't even 1130 yet. But I still had the secret HobNobs.

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I'd come with a road bike with gravel tyres, so I linked for lots of this as I knew there'd be gnarl later through The Peaks.

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First bit of gravel and the heart dropped.
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But it was the wrong left. Not muddy muck, but a nice crushed red brick lane. Everyone loves red bricks, right.

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Not sure why I took this snap, but it's part of the narrative so here it is!

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Then came the gnarl.

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Which only meant that the Peaks wasn't far. I think I must've made it past the place I got the train to the night before, before cycling to work.

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Not that I could ride the gnarl anyway. At least it was a good sign and little much. Next time I think I'll get the train to Stalybridge (that's the train station/name :-bd I remember now) with the mtb.

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By now it was nearing lunchtime and I was already halfway through my emergency-rations Hobnobs. Hardly sniffed a grid-ref yet.
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Then come the mucky yucky bit. I knew there was some and I was prepared with my beautiful road iron horse. Off course, I carried her like a baby. Blooming heavy aswell with all that extra water and back up clothes/jackets/liner gloves.

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Water Lane came after a bit of light main roads. I knew it was significant and I could smell the Peaks. So I asked that chap that surely there was a Ford down there. "Nope" was the answer, "no ford". But I accepted it anyway and it was a lovely lane. Though a bit steep and rocky-drain-channels in places. I took it easy but just about survived it.

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Longendendaleendale Trail. What a confusing high syllable name. Last time I'd been here was during the Peaks200 attempt, but I don't yet know it properly. Walker lady just reversed her car towards my bike, maybe trying to teach me something!

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I just cracked on and came across these tree-clwaners pretty soon. Pic taken after the fact, but the cut a nice wide berth for me between the tree that was keeping me off this mucky mess. Some came the riding of the brakes due to so much debri, but I managed to wash it out with two big a squirts of water. One with brakes pressed, and one without.

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Anyone that doesn't know this funny-name trail, it has 5 reservoirs and probably the biggest of which is Woodhead at the very end.

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Too cold to be digging out the phone for OS duties, but this chaps dad told me that they were all worthy of snaps. This was the tunnels at the very end, which I've seen before, but not after a little coaching from the locals.
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I asked the nice man as to which if the massive reservoirs (we were at the first, called Bottoms Res, which meant I had 7 miles of very gentle climbing) were worthy of 'snapping'. He affirmed, "all of them". So I took at least a few pics, of which the one with the dam is probably prettiest.

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Anyway!

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So, so pretty Alhamdulillah.

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I kept going until I reached Woodhead tunnels. To think that there was a time that (maybe) coal or some other raw materials were carried through these tunnels and across to maybe Sheffield.

I did my prayers here in about 1c and looked up at the gravity of the situation.
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Then after some paved climbing, I walked...

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As I did so, I looked behind and appreciated the magnitude of this scene. All the reservoirs in alignment but hardly to be seen. So, so cold though.
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If you look carefully, and imagine it's summer. You can maybe see the beauty of the scene. I was too cold but still forced myself to get the pics. Used the nose to deploy the camera and then used voice mode to 'shoot'.

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With the wind and rain whacking my face. I deployed one liner glove and the hood of my hardshell. At my last and final Hobnob. Spoke to myself that I need to be home for work the next day, and rode the 20 miles home via road.

How many gridpoints collected... Absolutely flipping none, but it was another Peaks experience and thanks to all for making it happen. Like the Terminator said, "I'll be back" :lol:
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Interesting part of the world that Shaff, hadn't appreciated how long the Woodhead tunnel was. Pity you can't get in!
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Great pictures and words :-bd

Woodhead route closed to rail traffic in summer 1981, madness.

My regret is I never saw the mighty class 76s double heading freights over the Pennines :cry:

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After TractionMan mentioned 1981 that the route closed. I decided to dig up a bit of history and here it is https://youtu.be/U9fV4Syx-7I?si=C7sHxnWuwt68xzbP thanks to Martin Zero for making the effort...

Interesting how the first two tunnels were dug in 1845 then 1852 (give or take a year) and third big tunnel was 1953. First two tunnels apparently according to a doctor at the time were riddled with injuries.

Apparently the injuries were due to the workers being drunk, to (according to the documentarian) numb the pain of being in the middle of the pennines :smile:
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Excellent, without getting too sidetracked :wink: have a look at this, the last day on the Woodhead :sad:

https://youtu.be/I6lEtQFyQoQ?si=Cnd_qSZpY9xqkmAT
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Tractionman wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:00 pm Excellent, without getting too sidetracked :wink: have a look at this, the last day on the Woodhead :sad:

https://youtu.be/I6lEtQFyQoQ?si=Cnd_qSZpY9xqkmAT
Not sidetracked at all. That's partly what this type of event and (I would say this forum) is about. Exploring. Thanks and I'll watch that shortly :-bd
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Good find there both of you :-bd

I suppose shoving the OH powerlines through the tunnel was some consolation....
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How many gridpoints collected... Absolutely flipping none
Brilliant Shaf, liking your style.
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NAWE 2025 Fail, but not for the reasons you're thinking (probably).

Finally found some time to sit down and plot the points Whitestone sent me AGES ago. I mean, I'd had a look (they handily came with a link with them all on one map) and realised it was going to take a bit of thinking so parked it, so to speak. Sat at the computer this morning between meetings and fired up OS Maps and Komoot and proceeded to stitch together a slightly lumpy loop of exactly 100 miles. Quick chat with my wife to check she hadn't forgotten I was going to be out Saturday into Sunday and she pointed out a crucial fact that I'd totally missed.

February has 28 days. Ergo, as of tomorrow, winter is over.

To be honest I'm not totally annoyed. Obviously I win Fuckwit Of The Week Award but truth is I'm still not 100% sure about the bike or myself for that matter (got this cough that won't shift) and time with the family this weekend won't go amiss. The route is still there wanting to be done and I think we'll work up to it. Shame because I was looking forward to bivvying in Auldhame again but it's not going anywhere. Glad I got out last weekend now though to tick the BaM box. Will take the bike out to do at least part of the route this weekend anyway.
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Winter lasts until March 21st Justin, plenty time yet :-bd
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Aha, forgot there's different ways of reckoning the seasons. Cheers Phil. Won't be this weekend but there's hope yet.

As you were.
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GR1 done.
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16 or so miles, a mix of rough and smooth including some steep out of the saddle uphill which would have put plenty of twisting forces through the bottom bracket and stays and nothing broke so I hereby declare bamboobike2 fit and gravelworthy.
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(From Wikipedia) In February 1567, her husband Lord Darnley's residence was destroyed by an explosion, and he was found murdered in the nearby garden. James Hepburn, 4th Earl of Bothwell, was generally believed to have orchestrated Darnley's death, but he was acquitted of the charge in April 1567 and in the following month he married Mary. Following an uprising against the couple, Mary was imprisoned in Lochleven Castle. On 24 July 1567, she was forced to abdicate in favour of her one-year-old son James VI. After an unsuccessful attempt to regain the throne, she fled southward seeking the protection of her first cousin once removed, Elizabeth I of England.

Perceiving Mary as a threat, Elizabeth had her confined in various castles and manor houses in the interior of England. After eighteen-and-a-half years in captivity, Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth in 1586 and was beheaded the following year at Fotheringhay Castle.

The 2018 film on Netflix is pretty good as I recall but I fancy tracking the 1971 version with Vanessa Redgrave and Glenda Jackson which is on iplayer for the next 3 weeks.
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001txq7 via @bbciplayer
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Interesting piece of history there thanks. Power grabs hey!!
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