New Bike Gear Out And Due Out...

[fatbikephil]

Silly question perhaps but do schrader tubeless valves exist?

I wondered that, turns out Stans make some. Every day's a school day

I guess any bolt in Schrader valve would work? I'll have to rummage about in the workshop around the (car) tyre machine.

I use motorbike ones, the only issue is that they have a 15mm dia end bit so OK for fat and plus rims but not narrow ones.

[faustus]

I'm sure the old Mavic xm319s I had, had a plastic shim in the valve hole to bring the internal diameter to fit a presta more snuggly, so shraeder tubes/valves were an option on old narrow rims BITD (though I thought 19mm was a pretty fat rim at the time, marketed as 'all mountain'!).

[jameso]

I have a bag of those old Mavic inserts somewhere. I expect it won't be long before Shrader drilling is the norm for tubeless and you just use the insert to put Presta tubes in in emergencies. Any Shrader valve with a removable core should do the trick, I've used valves cut from old inner tubes perhaps 50% of my riding time over the last 12,13 years or so w/o any major problems. Was always hesitant to drill my rims to try Shraders until proper TL valves were available though as the rubber plug part of a proper valve tends to seal easier.

[Boab]

Schwalbe Clik Valve

This photo from off-road.cc looks like there maybe adapters for different tubes widths, i.e. presta and shrader...

[fatbikephil]

https://www.wizard.works/shop/bags/bike ... 6699261fbe

New framebags out in set sizes. As usual none quite meet the dimensions I need, so custom it is for my Strag....

[voodoo_simon]

This looks vaguely exciting

[fatbikephil]

I saw that on that bikepacking - flat bar gravel bike, otherwise known as a rigid mountainbike with a horrible riding position

Hey ho, it may well catch on.

[faustus]

Looks alright that, but I do hate the term flat bar gravel. It's a rigid mtb. Yes, with slammed bars, and way too much 'integrated cable' nonsense...but as many know, rigid 29ers are pretty much the best do-it-all bike...

[voodoo_simon]

Yeah, I don’t like the term flat bar gravel (nor do I like rigid mountain bike ).

Let’s settle on ‘bike…’

It’s got bigger tyres my El Mariachi and Procaliber has and is class them as mountain bikes. I’ve been tempted to put rigid forks in the Procaliber but that would match my other bikes too much!

Just wish Scott put sliding dropouts on the bike and then I’d be properly interested

[faustus]

Yeah, I kinda agree on 'rigid', I find it a bit awkward. But I feel like it needs including to differentiate it from what many may see/assume as an 'mtb' - rigid/no-sus is probably such a small proportion of mtbs now.

[godivatrailrider]

Yeah, I kinda agree on 'rigid', I find it a bit awkward. But I feel like it needs including to differentiate it from what many may see/assume as an 'mtb' - rigid/no-sus is probably such a small proportion of mtbs now.

OFF TOPIC ALERT !
As I only ride rigid I'm sort of used to it, it's not inaccurate, other than it suggests a lack of any articulation ...... what I object to is 'standard' bikes having their name/description retrospectively changed to 'non-ebikes' ..... no, they're 'bikes' and ebikes are 'ebikes', bikes have been around a lot longer and therefore it's the newcomers that get the clunky name ....

Oh, and bikes being called 'steeds' too

And why is there always someone in a group photo that HAS to hold their bike above their heads

goddamn I really am a misanthrope !

[jameso]

And why is there always someone in a group photo that HAS to hold their bike above their heads

"gonna fly now... "

[faustus]

I read something yesterday where somebody was describing a chunky off road drop bar 29er as 'gravel-plus' The quest for unnecessary neologism is ongoing! To be fair it was probably on 'the other place'/the place we dare not speak its name..(STW).

I quite like ATB to cover a wide range of riding and bikes. Some greybeards might accuse me of hipster appropriation based on the term being used for '80s mtbs. But I think there's a nod to that fact in the name itself. Anyway...OT and not that interesting

[sean_iow]

what I object to is 'standard' bikes having their name/description retrospectively changed to 'non-ebikes' ..... no, they're 'bikes' and ebikes are 'ebikes', bikes have been around a lot longer and therefore it's the newcomers that get the clunky name ....

That's dodgy ground as a 'bicycle' is really a Penny Farthing (also known as an Ordinary) and ours are Safety Bikes. As the Safety took over the Ordinary stopped being called just a Bicycle and the Safety took over that name. I assume Ordinary riders were just as outraged at this, probably waving their pipes around furiously whilst shouting about those scoundrels on Safetys stelaing thier name and challenging them to a duel

My friend calls his non-ebike his 'acoustic' as his other is an electric, just like his guitars

[faustus]

I've seen the 'acoustic' phrase used a few times before too...it kinda works, but I still dislike it!

[Lazarus]

Acoustic is the only phrase i have heard used and no way i would call my bikes non ebikes.

[jameso]

I read something yesterday where somebody was describing a chunky off road drop bar 29er as 'gravel-plus'

Couldve been me .. I've been using that term for a while at work and prob also on STW. The marketing view of it is 'gravel' whereas the reality of it all now is there's Gravel Lite / All-road at one end of the scale and Gravel Plus / ATB / XC MTB sort of thing at the other. Some folk just get it, others (inc bike brands) say 'gravel' and it's guesswork as to what that actually means.

I know, "what would Bill say?"

I've heard a few Euro bike folk talking about normal non-E bikes as 'muscle bikes' in the last year or so. Did nothing for my opinion of the state of the industry : )

[Lazarus]

IMHO if you need mtb width tyres its not gravel ( plus or otherwise)you are riding.

[faustus]

Well i feel we have transgressed successfully, at least two mentions of STW - and much like mentioning the house of lords in the commons, we have not yet been reprimanded by the speaker!

Muscle-bike - yup, short lived amusement at that phrase. On gravel; marketing driven naming has come home to roost on that one, with the rough-road to mtb spectrum of bikes it covers throwing up all sorts of category conundrums. e.g. when searching for tyres in online stores, when does 700x50mm become 29x2.0? It's the grav-illogical problem of our age

[sean_iow]

On the Island there are no natural gravel trials I can think of, only where it's been put there to make the surface more 'all weather' but we do have some gravel pits, but you're not allowed to ride in them Perhaps as I have to have a basic knowledge of geology for my job it grates more with me we call non-surfaced tracks 'gravel'

A friend of mine always refers to my bike as the 'tread iron' as in I'll be at my workshop with no car there and he'll say 'where's the van or did you arrive by tread iron?'. I've no idea if this is a nationally used expression? Or just a local expression like 'nipper'

[jameso]

It's the grav-illogical problem of our age

Very good

[fatbikephil]

Musclebike:-



Not a musclebike:-



So called due to the strength required to pick it up if you drop it...

A mate persists in referring to my gravel bike as a 'hybrid'

[godivatrailrider]

Not a musclebike:-

ooohh Jones Mudguards... my Spaceframe is a LWB Plus so plenty of room... I'd like mudguards for winter... Only got 2.6 or maybe 2.8 tyres... what mudguards are they ???

[fatbikephil]

It's a Mudhugger on the back - https://www.themudhugger.co.uk/collecti ... 8843186350
And a Muckynutz on the front - https://muckynutz.com/shop/products/gua ... ong_MN0155 I've trimmed the 'wings' off this and attached to the truss fork with a steerer wedge and a cable tie.

I've also got a bit of an old mudhugger running between the BB and the seat stays but the new versions cover this. The final bit is a muckynutz crud catcher type thing on the down tube which keeps glop off the frame bag and your shins

[godivatrailrider]

It's a Mudhugger on the back - https://www.themudhugger.co.uk/collecti ... 8843186350
And a Muckynutz on the front - https://muckynutz.com/shop/products/gua ... ong_MN0155 I've trimmed the 'wings' off this and attached to the truss fork with a steerer wedge and a cable tie.

I've also got a bit of an old mudhugger running between the BB and the seat stays but the new versions cover this. The final bit is a muckynutz crud catcher type thing on the down tube which keeps glop off the frame bag and your shins

Cheers for the info !