Supertramp 2024: A Challenge

[thenorthwind]

BAM seems to be a great motivator for getting people out the door, and often people do it as part of a bigger trip, but I've been thinking recently how much more rewarding it is to get out for at least two nights in a row. Waking up outside (or, more often, coming round from the final nap of the night and giving up on sleep entirely ) and having nothing to do other than ride and keep yourself alive until you find another spot to lie down in leaves that day entirely unsullied by the logistics of packing/unpacking/traveling/reintegrating into "normal" society that the first and last days of a trip inevitably involve.

The two monthly challenges I've dabbled with (but not actually completed either) are BAM and its Audax equivalent, Randonneur Round the Year, so taking a cue from Audax's Super Randonneur (rides of 200, 300, 400 and 600km in a season), I propose a challenge...

Supertramp
Ride your bike and stay out for 2, 3, 4, and 6 (at least) consecutive nights on separate rides in 2024.
Rules as per BAM, except any accommodation is acceptable for part of the trip to allow for the unpredictability of longer trips. However, at least half of the nights must be BAM-compliant.

BAM rules refresher:

• At least one night out per calendar month for twelve consecutive months.

• Your own back garden does not count. That of your neighbour does.

* A single trip taking in both the last night of one month and the first of the next, will count as two months if you wish - but you still need 2 nights out, just that they'll be combined within a single trip.

* A bike must be involved - it's bikepacking, the clue's in the name ... 'Involved'? You really don't need me to spell it out do you?

* No paid for accommodation inc' campsites or hostels. Bothies are okay.

* Post each trip here in as much detail as you like, pictures are good. One post for each month please ... if you'd prefer not to post, that's fine. We'll take you at your word but people do like reading the trip reports.

Anyone up for it? It's nice goal even if you don't complete. I'm not 100% sure I'll do it, but plans are falling into place for this year which will pretty much cover it.

[fatbikephil]

Funnily enough Dave, I was thinking earlier that I tend to only sleep out for three maybe four nights at a time on a trip, Highland Trail excepted, and I need to up my game. It was partly why I went for the GBduro as that would be 10 nights straight but for various reasons I'm not doing that now....

So we'll see. Dad is taking quite a long time to recover from a knee replacement so I'm having to nip down home regularly to support Mum and when he comes home will also need to be down there a fair bit so bike riding plans are pretty fluid just now. Hoping to get out for a Cairngorms weekend this month which would be a start but actually looking a bit iffy at the mo....

Good idea though

[sean_iow]

Good idea So to clarify, can we use paid for accommodation during the trip?

Rules as per BAM, except any accommodation is acceptable for part of the trip to allow for the unpredictability of longer trips. However, at least half of the nights must be BAM-compliant.

For example, on Mike's Canals trip last year our nights out were

1 - side of a field next to the canal
2 - side of the ridgeway
3 - the 'interesting campsite' so we could shower and wash our riding clothes after 3 days in 30 degree heat
4 - on the sea defenses just south of Chepstow
5 - top of Gospel Pass
6 - some woods west of Ludlow

So 6 nights out but one or them was paid for.

You might also want to add to the rules that Sean is not allowed to bivi - go to work - ride home for dinner and a shower - bivi - go to work - etc. I sleep as well out as at home so can go top work as normal.

[Bearbonesnorm]

Good idea Dave. Dee and myself were just saying last night how the whole dynamic can change once you begin to add additional nights.

[Lazarus]

Dont think i will manage the set as 6 days is unlikely but in as i have a few trips planned and can get the lower numbers

[benconnolli]

I like this idea, and agree with that simplicity of getting "into the flow"

To complicate things, I have started tacking bikepacking trips onto the ends of other, less bikey trips.

An example is Easter. 3 nights in a bivi/bothy, then 4 days in a mountaineering hut. These days will not be spent biking so I would not count them. I would consider this an entry to the 3 tramps field.

[thenorthwind]

Funnily enough Dave, I was thinking earlier that I tend to only sleep out for three maybe four nights at a time on a trip

You're already doing better than me then!

Good idea So to clarify, can we use paid for accommodation during the trip?

Rules as per BAM, except any accommodation is acceptable for part of the trip to allow for the unpredictability of longer trips. However, at least half of the nights must be BAM-compliant.

For example, on Mike's Canals trip last year our nights out were

1 - side of a field next to the canal
2 - side of the ridgeway
3 - the 'interesting campsite' so we could shower and wash our riding clothes after 3 days in 30 degree heat
4 - on the sea defenses just south of Chepstow
5 - top of Gospel Pass
6 - some woods west of Ludlow

So 6 nights out but one or them was paid for.

You might also want to add to the rules that Sean is not allowed to bivi - go to work - ride home for dinner and a shower - bivi - go to work - etc. I sleep as well out as at home so can go top work as normal.

Yup, paid accommodation fine, even inside if you must, but not more than half the nights, so your example is absolutely fine.

Going home for dinner and a shower is stretching it, but I guess as long as you don't sleep there... I'll leave it up to your conscience

[Blackhound]

Quite like that idea and would like to have a go. A night or so inside to rest and recharge the devices we can’t possibly manage without is good.

Part of the inspiration for the original BAM was the randonneur round the year comp which I considered beyond my abilities but managed in 2015.

[Blackhound]

PS - love the name

[sean_iow]

Going home for dinner and a shower is stretching it, but I guess as long as you don't sleep there... I'll leave it up to your conscience

Even with my lack of conscience I'd say going home is outright cheating

It's a great idea though (as is classic BAM) and I'm now looking at the weather over Easter off the back of this to see if I can get a multi-nigt trip in.

[gecko76]

Talk about upping the ante; I'm still counting hours, not days. Maybe once the kids are a bit older - not even sure I could get away with two nights at this point. Loving the concept though and sounds like a few are well on the way there already.

[Scattamah]

I'll give it a go. Should be able to knock off 6 'n 4 during May 'n June tramping around UK....3 might be trickier with time limits for rest of year and will require creative thinking but 2 should be reachable with a weekender.

Greetz

S. : )

[Johnallan]

Sounds ace but I doubt I'll get 6 nights out in a row without taking early retirement. A Super Randonneur seems easy compared to Supertramp, with a 600km fitting comfortably inside 2 days.

[redefined_cycles]

Veey temptee by this thanks Dave. Why be Tramp when one can be SuperTramp. 6 sounds scary though.

[Charliecres]

Cracking idea. Not sure I’ll manage it in 2024 but it’s a great goal to aim for.

Hmmm … now, technically, a night on the sleeper train appears to count according to the rules. Seems wrong but then it’s a lot less comfy than a B&B (or even a half-decent bivy if you’re in a seat).

[Verena]

Great idea!

I agree two nights out feel completely different from just one.

Not sure at all that I'd manage it this year (as foolishly aiming for super Randonneur this year) (keep saying that bit again of how 600 is "easy"?!?!), having already "failed" at Randonneur around the year...

If six nights in a row I might need to get that dog trailer out into use again

[benconnolli]

I'll plop the WRT in as my 2 night attempt. Got vague ideas for the 6, but then unsure of intermediates.

[Leerowe76]

On the Audax 600's do people tend to sleep or ride through as 200 is the max I've rode in a oner, doubt I'd get anywhere near 3,4 or 600 tbh in one go could be out there all week

[Johnallan]

On the Audax 600's do people tend to sleep or ride through as 200 is the max I've rode in a oner, doubt I'd get anywhere near 3,4 or 600 tbh in one go could be out there all week

I rode straight through the Bryan Chapman 600 last year. A few weeks later I rode the Pendle 600 with sleep at around 350km. It's easier to get some sleep

[Scattamah]

Have cleared the 6 days and will go for a bonus night tonight at the local bird hide.

Day 1 - Clee Burf
Day 2 - Smallbatch
Day 3 - hotel north of Shrewsbury to dry all the kit after savagely wet night prior
Day 4 - stone shed in the Cambrians
Day 5 - Clee Burf again 'cause it was a great spot
Day 6 - Long Mynd tops

The rest should be easy after this.

Greetz

S : )

Edit: Never made the birdhide...passed out at ol' mates house after dinner and a few Guinness. Killed the streak but I'm still fair chuffed to have managed the 6.

[sean_iow]

Supertramp
Ride your bike and stay out for 2, 3, 4, and 6 (at least) consecutive nights on separate rides in 2024.
Rules as per BAM, except any accommodation is acceptable for part of the trip to allow for the unpredictability of longer trips. However, at least half of the nights must be BAM-compliant.

Could we just have a clarification on what constitutes separate rides? Would taking a 110 mile coach trip part way through a trip mean that's really 2 rides? careful with the answer as it's a loaded question

[Lazarus]

Three day streak on a ( off road ) tour of yorkshire
Day 1. Scarborough-Farndale moor @ dale head 48 miles 4440 ft but only left at 2 pm ish
Day 2 stake moss over 500m bivvy spot
77 miles 6450 ft
Day3 sidings of railway just outside York.
75 miles and 5000ft
Day4 was75 and 3000ft ( no bivvy) to Hull

Loosely based on dales divide.

[thenorthwind]

Good to see people cracking on with this

Could we just have a clarification on what constitutes separate rides? Would taking a 110 mile coach trip part way through a trip mean that's really 2 rides? careful with the answer as it's a loaded question

If you want it to I guess we can "give a little bit" (badum... )

Personally I've only ticked off 2 Had plans for 3 and 4 but they both fell apart. If I can't manage 6 as part of a 12 night trip then there's no hope.

[sean_iow]

I did 3 nights before the coach ride and 11 after but calling that 2 trips does fell like cheating.

I'll say my 14 night trip in Scotland counts as my 6.

Now I need to do the 2, 3 and 4.

[thenorthwind]

If I was being generous with myself, having looked at the accommodation we used on our TNR trip, I could count the first 6 nights (bivvy, bivvy, campsite, bivvy, B&B, bivvy) as my 6 and the last 4 (campsite, bivvy, bivvy, campsite) as my 4. But it's a bit tenuous (I did say they should be separate trips) and I'm still lacking a 3, so it's a bit of a moot point.

I'm sure some of you do better. Any claims on a completion? Anyone been under a tarp since Christmas Day in a last ditch attempt?