13l front bag options
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13l front bag options
Our 13l Airlok dual front bags are worn and holed now and leak a fair bit. They have seen a lot of service so I am happy to replace them now. Looking on Alpkit they only seem to have 13l Tivaro's as an alternative, but none in stock till March - anybody got any experience with these? Are they any good? Anyone know of any other 13l front bags for me to consider as an alternative? It needs to be that size - the 9 or 10l ones just aren't big enough for our setup.
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Re: 13l front bag options
I've got an older Tivaro, the matt grey version. It's a lot heavier duty than the Airloks or Airlok Extras. Other than that, it's a drybag with built-in webbing etc.
I'd say good as a standalone bag, probably overkill if you're using some sort of harness.
I'd say good as a standalone bag, probably overkill if you're using some sort of harness.
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Ok thanks. No we don't use harnesses at all (which is probably why ours have worn out - but this was a calculated decision - a new drybag is a lot cheaper than a harness).
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The Wildcat double-ended drybags are very good. I have an unused Alpkit Airlok Dual 13L in kelp you can have, if you're interested.
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And I thought it was just me. Good for you

Have you tried contacting AK? When I needed a new front bag I requested a 10L custom one made from LS07. Only weighs 60g, plus the S2S lightweight straps round the bars.
PS. March? Can't you just use some binliners and gaffertape until then?

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Yeah the Wildcat ones don't have strap mount points though so you have to use them with a harness, which is just a bit too pricey for me. Interested in your Airlok though - send me a pm with what you are wanting for it?
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Have you considered a drybag and something like the drj0n Strapdeck and GFunk?
https://wildcat.cc/collections/handleba ... rks-g-funk


https://wildcat.cc/collections/handleba ... rks-g-funk


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Sorry, couldn't resist another advert for RegPak(TM) Front Luggage System(*) - harness 10g, S2S straps 18g, 10L drybag 61g, total 89g (**):
(*) "System" might be pushing it a bit far TBH.
(**) mudguard not included. A few quid from any Halfords.


(*) "System" might be pushing it a bit far TBH.
(**) mudguard not included. A few quid from any Halfords.


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Interesting, thanks. But seems a bit complicated compared to an Airlok.stevenshand wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:14 pm Have you considered a drybag and something like the drj0n Strapdeck and GFunk?
https://wildcat.cc/collections/handleba ... rks-g-funk
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How much was the drybag Reg?
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£40 incl P&P for 2 of them a year ago.... I was able to specify dimensions and position of strap patches and everything... very good service really....
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Re: 13l front bag options
Note that AK didn't supply the special strap slot widening tubes, I had to make those from a milk bottle (gonna stop having those plakky milkbottles soon so need to stash a few away). They add 0.5g to the weight but work superbly - much easier to feed the straps through in a hurry.
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£20 each is really good. Impressed.
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Lomo ones are only £8 each, although they are 12l?
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.....and weigh 300g

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Re: 13l front bag options
Yes, but as Reg says, they are sadly lacking the strap bosses, which is a real shame, as I would much rather use a Scottish company.
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Blimey, that is a bit hefty! I suspect that they or you could easily add stick on patches though
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Sea to summit haven’t let me down, the dry river series are tough/thick fabric
https://www.seatosummit.co.uk/products/ ... r-dry-bag/
https://www.seatosummit.co.uk/products/ ... r-dry-bag/
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Thanks, but again - no strap bosses.voodoo_simon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:42 pm Sea to summit haven’t let me down, the dry river series are tough/thick fabric
https://www.seatosummit.co.uk/products/ ... r-dry-bag/
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You sure me ducks?Borderer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:10 amThanks, but again - no strap bosses.voodoo_simon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:42 pm Sea to summit haven’t let me down, the dry river series are tough/thick fabric
https://www.seatosummit.co.uk/products/ ... r-dry-bag/

Admittedly only one so still poss' not the right thing.

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" Hypalon lash loops on the sides for secure stacking". Stacking?! Does that mean "won't fall off when you have a bad crash" in STW-speak?
Reckon that loop has a strap from there to the rolltop for shoulder-carrying.
I thought Hypalon was a type of starship drive. Powered by VX21 crystals probably.
Reckon that loop has a strap from there to the rolltop for shoulder-carrying.
I thought Hypalon was a type of starship drive. Powered by VX21 crystals probably.
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Is the lack of strap bosses on a drybag really that much of an issue?
Do they slip out of the straps?
Do they slip out of the straps?
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I don't know because I have never tried without them, but I imagine they would. Sometimes when we are travelling light the straps are right at the edge of the packed part so I'm sure they would slip off then.
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Re: 13l front bag options
Without strap bosses, couldn't you just put the straps closer to the stem?
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Another approach would be to add your own bosses to a suitably sized rectangle of fabric, firming a kind of harness, that help to position the straps, and enclose the bag a bit more.
It would have to be fairly lightweight, though
It would have to be fairly lightweight, though
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It just feels like reinventing the wheel when the Alpkit ones do the job so simply and well. And cheaply. So I guess my question has been answered - its them or nothing.