Well put Stuart. Sums up how I see it these days better than I could have put it. I did think about whether I was bikepacking, audax touring or roadpacking during the last few in Wales. For about 2 mins. Decided I didn't care, was simply travelling by bike. I felt free, that's for sure.
Cheddarman, the term 'bikepacking' goes back to the 70s or early 80s, you can drop the cynicism if you like :)
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If I make gratuitous use of accommodation, I tend to think I'm touring, if I'm out under the tarp I tend to think its bike packing. Just bashed out 350 miles in 4 days. Mostly on road, some good tracks, some shockers and two days in the middle spent at friends doing some mountainbiking and drinking. I bivvied twice. I was on the grovel bike - was I bikepacking or touring? Don't know, don't care. I passed two dudes yesterday on trad tourers with front and rear panniers - maybe they were touring...
Cheddar Man wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:26 pm
Surely 'Bikepacking' is nothing more than a clever notion dreamt up by some poncey hipster marketeer to flog trendy nobbers, affluent middle- aged middle-classed ex-golfers, or old-duffers with more money than sense a ton of stuff that they didn't realise they needed until someone invented 'Bikepacking' isn't it?
Seriously, I went on my first bike tour in 1981, (a drop bar Raleigh Record Ace in gold as you ask)around the lanes and byways of Buckinghamshire with a couple of mates. What I have done in the intervening years has been on hardtail mtb's, a Dawes Galaxy, a full suss mtb, and a carbon road bike (that was a hoot). Now it seems it's called 'Bikepacking', well there you go! It's just cycle-touring, that is all it is. Everything else is marketting guff.
Seriously, I am on a rant now.............. I know people who would rather have their spleen removed than have a bike with a saddlebag on, they had to have a trendy courier type bag. Now Bikepacking saddle bags are out, they are fighting for the biggest capacity, most straps and hanging points and reflectivity. It's still a bloody saddle bag, the very thing 12 months ago you wouldn't have gone near with a shi77y stick....... nobbers
For me it’s getting away from noise like this ^
A bit of peace.
Time away from the ordinary.
Sometimes a time for solitude. Sometimes a time for the company of old friends or new.
It’s the environment, the challenge, the weather. And (sorry Lance) it’s definitely about the bike - Seriously, any bike.