Arkose 3 or Pickenflick?

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:29 pm

Which would you choose for general gravel and road duties? Nothing seems to touch these for value at the moment.

Pickenflick - Rival 1x £1200
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBOOPICKR ... cross-bike

Arkose 3 - 105 super-compact £1025 with trade-in
https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-ar ... -road-bike

Wotsits · Post by **Wotsits** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:45 pm

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-725/

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:03 pm

Thanks. Yes, have considered the Ribble but the spec is lower than the Arkose and the gearing makes less sense to me.

Adventurer · Post by **Adventurer** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:02 pm

I would say, maybe Arkose, but sadly because of who owns Evans now, I could not morally, personally buy anything from them.

Have you thought about sonder bikes as an option?

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:30 pm

Yup, I think I’ve looked at all the options. I was pretty much settled on an Arkose till the recent price drop on the Pickenflick. Never owned a Ti bike and this seems a good opportunity to give it a go.

johnnystorm · Post by **johnnystorm** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:05 pm

Will you ever want to fit mudguards? Not sure the pick has them if that's the case.

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:13 pm

Hmmm ... good point. I’m thinking probably not but worth considering

redefined_cycles · Post by **redefined_cycles** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:12 am

My 2 pence in the Arkose. But only cos I don't like substandard built ti frames. And unless they've had the picknflick built by one of the OCD ti builders I wouldnt wanna bet if the welds had been contaminated...

No offence to onOne/PlanetX off course... aside from the fact that I've seen many a frame being spares and repairs and even one report on my buddies carbon frame which had some hole somewhere... Hechased it up just to get told it wasn't honna affect structure or performance!!

In Reverse · Post by **In Reverse** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:55 am

Not much between them tbf. Versatility/wider tyres of the Arkose vs the more desirable/better ride of the Pickenflick.

I'd go with the Pickenflick - I think you'll enjoy riding it more. I've got a Planet X Ti frame (a Titus) and it's a lovely ride. There's a few people on here wih Pickenflicks who've done a lot of miles on them.

jameso · Post by **jameso** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:38 am

(bias disclaimer not needed...)

Had a look at the Pickenflick, that's a great buy. Only £175 more to see how a Ti bike works for you? Hard to say no. If I was being picky (sorry) the PnF geo is too slack/long trail for my liking (slacker HA and less fork offset) and the BB is almost 10mm higher than the Arkose. It's short for it's sizes also, like a CX race bike simply with a degree of the HTA. BUT - there's no right answer on geometry we're all different there, and Titanium can ride so well.

johnnystorm · Post by **johnnystorm** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:53 pm

In Reverse wrote:Not much between them tbf. Versatility/wider tyres of the Arkose vs the more desirable/better ride of the Pickenflick.

I'd go with the Pickenflick - I think you'll enjoy riding it more. I've got a Planet X Ti frame (a Titus) and it's a lovely ride. There's a few people on here wih Pickenflicks who've done a lot of miles on them.

I bet the mythical Ti ride is equalled by fatter tyres run at a lower pressure (speaking as a Ti bike and Arkose rider).

johnnystorm · Post by **johnnystorm** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:55 pm

Adventurer wrote:I would say, maybe Arkose, but sadly because of who owns Evans now, I could not morally, personally buy anything from them.

Have you thought about sonder bikes as an option?

In Evans defence they've only *just* been taken over by Ashley whereas Planet X's who ethos is modelled on his business methods.

TheBrownDog · Post by **TheBrownDog** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:30 pm

Arkose............. buy mine. Bought it last year before Evans were taken over by the Evil One so you're conscience will be clear

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:36 pm

Tell me more ... is it a medium with 105/hydro brakes?

Bearlegged · Post by **Bearlegged** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:47 am

Charliecres wrote:Blah, blah, blah...Rival 1x...blah, blah, blah 105...

Arkose it is.

ScotRoutes · Post by **ScotRoutes** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:02 am

Adventurer wrote:I would say, maybe Arkose, but sadly because of who owns Evans now, I could not morally, personally buy anything from them.

Whereas I'll never, ever give the crooks and liars at PX/OO any of my money again.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:04 pm

My only input on this is i have a mk3 arkose and its simply great, although i am considering a ti camino at some point only because its shinny though

TheBrownDog · Post by **TheBrownDog** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:57 pm

Charliecres wrote:Tell me more ... is it a medium with 105/hydro brakes?

Nope, it's an XL 2017 Arkose 4 with 105/hydro brakes. Lovely bike but not being used.

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:37 pm

Ah well, I’d need stilts with that but thanks anyway

Pat · Post by **Pat** » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:12 pm

The new decathlon gravel thing looks plenty of bang for buck?

Adventurer · Post by **Adventurer** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:22 pm

So another option is a Sonder Camino Ti then??

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:36 pm

Except it’s almost twice the price ...

Charliecres · Post by **Charliecres** » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:41 pm

Went for the Pickenflick with Rival 22 in the end. The lure of titanium and 0% finance was too strong to resist. Thanks for the input, everyone.

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