The Swedish film thread got me thinking and I thought, I wonder what type of bikepacking film people would like to see?

Given some previous comments regarding films, it would seem that things we don't like, include the following;

1/ Moaning about stuff.
2/ People banging on about spirtituality and 'finding themselves'.
3/ Things appearing perfect - you know, perfect trails, perfect sunset, lovely campfire, etc, etc, etc.
4/ People producing 'bikepacking' films that appear to be doing so in an effort to get on what might be called 'The bandwagon'.
5/ Anything with an overly American slant.
6/ Being soft.
7/ Being stupid.
8/ Being soft and stupid which results in point 1.
9/ Endless panorama shots with some luke-warm, non-descript music played over the top.
10/ The voice over man trying hard to make dull, everyday happenings sound edgy and risky.

I've got a few ideas about what I'd like to see, which might result in a Bear Bones Bikepacking B movie later in the year but I really wondered what anyone else thought?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUL56vrK75I

Kinda proves points, 6, 7 and 8

Anything interesting/inspirational/unusual for mere mortals who only want to ride 50 miles a day [or less].

Its good to see 'the boys' riding balls to the wall occasionally, but I would rather watch stuff that makes me think 'I want to do that/go there'

Cheers

11/ Nothing longer that 5 minutes, unless it's got none of 1 to 10 in it at all. And tell a story beginning, middle and an end.

This sort of thing:

https://vimeo.com/194640822

Doesn't have to be about racing, but it does have to inspire. Don't care how American it is so long as the people are genuine, not on-trend twats full of BS.

Music is a big one, so many downhill films et al use metal music and it's rather off putting. Watched a ski film the other day and the music was spot on, chilled with a beat to it

Point 4 needs to cover all aspects of blogging and vlogging!

Point 9 I can tolerate, the have a soft spot for scenery.

Films that take you on a journey are the best ones, something with a plot but not planned.

One of my favourites
https://vimeo.com/69045994

It shows adventure (did I just type that?), scenery, a human side to the author and humour. The film draws you in, you care about the character and gives you a nice sense of achievement at the end of the film. American but not the Yee Ha guff stuff

And this
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/northofthesun/108068644

I have zero interest in surfing, and I mean no interest but this works. Young and plucky. Shows hardship but without being whingy!

ZeroDarkBivi wrote:This sort of thing:

https://vimeo.com/194640822

Doesn't have to be about racing, but it does have to inspire. Don't care how American it is so long as the people are genuine, not on-trend twats full of BS.

Watched this the other day, or most of it. Great scenery in the film

12/ Don't use drones too much

I rarely make it to the end of a cycling film. But "Ride the Divide" did it for me (apart from the dodgy Alan Goldsmith takes) as it was just about the right balance of drama, scenery and making me think I could *possibly* attempt it myself. In bikepacking there are mega-heros and ordinary mortals, there are sub standard bits and great bits, there's humour and also times when things are desperate, there's food and drink, sunsets and sunrises, swearing and often a real sense of camaraderie. If at the end of the film you saw a bit of your past, present or future self then its a winner in my view.

1/ Moaning about stuff.
6/ Being soft.
7/ Being stupid.
8/ Being soft and stupid which results in point 1.

I'm a fan of this sort of stuff, with people as normal as possible. Not crazy fit, not crazy pretty, just trying to get out there and enjoy themselves, but at the same time being normal stupid / soft human beings. Some people are just too superhuman. Hard to identify with them!

No bonfires
No tidy beards
No lefty forks
No navel gazing

dont know what i would like to see in a bike packing film , but if anyone wants to make one i can help do a bit of film making and have had a couple of things in KMF so keen to do a bike packing one
here are some cycling ones iv been part of making been in and filming , and or directed: normally kind of funny and try not to take anything seriously !
https://vimeo.com/74449197

https://vimeo.com/181551454

voodoo_simon wrote:One of my favourites
https://vimeo.com/69045994

It shows adventure (did I just type that?), scenery, a human side to the author and humour. The film draws you in, you care about the character and gives you a nice sense of achievement at the end of the film. American but not the Yee Ha guff stuff

I enjoyed that. Honest, funny and kudos for the 2 week Death March

We need more stuff like this
https://vimeo.com/148850259

We need more stuff like this
https://vimeo.com/148850259

Actually, now you mention it, that kind of ticks all the points:


1/ Moaning about stuff ... not moaning, simply stating fact.
2/ People banging on about spirtituality and 'finding themselves' ... none of that going on. We couldn't have found our arse with both hands in that wind.
3/ Things appearing perfect - you know, perfect trails, perfect sunset, lovely campfire, etc, etc, etc ... uhm.
4/ People producing 'bikepacking' films that appear to be doing so in an effort to get on what might be called 'The bandwagon' ... and again, uhm.
5/ Anything with an overly American slant ... a third uhm in a row.
6/ Being soft ... don't think so.
7/ Being stupid ... posssibly fall down on this one.
8/ Being soft and stupid which results in point 1 ... Can't be because there was no moaning.
9/ Endless panorama shots with some luke-warm, non-descript music played over the top ... we had the music of nature.
10/ The voice over man trying hard to make dull, everyday happenings sound edgy and risky ... voice over man trying hard to make the edgy and risky sound perfectly normal.

What about Dave B's BB200 2014 masterpiece?

Sarah wrote:Anything interesting/inspirational/unusual for mere mortals who only want to ride 50 miles a day [or less].

Its good to see 'the boys' riding balls to the wall occasionally, but I would rather watch stuff that makes me think 'I want to do that/go there'

Cheers

Same here ! We're not all ultra athletes ... some of us are just normal folks. I'll never do 150miles in a day.... I'm completely happy doing an interesting ride of a manageable length. I like taking time to enjoy the ride and the company, time to take in the views, time to have coffee or a beer.

What about Dave B's BB200 2014 masterpiece?

A true classic of the genre.

Single Speed George wrote: https://vimeo.com/74449197

https://vimeo.com/181551454

George, these are absolutely fantastic.

Well done to you and your team, have you any more?

JohnClimber wrote:

Single Speed George wrote: https://vimeo.com/74449197

https://vimeo.com/181551454

George, these are absolutely fantastic.

Well done to you and your team, have you any more?

a couple but nothing elce with bikes
this is one we did about climbing :
https://vimeo.com/138468509

and these are ones i made about phill climbing with one leg :
https://vimeo.com/109734439
this one is an early one so a bit less slick and less humerouse but was in KMF https://vimeo.com/104961968


but ye need a KMF project this summer and lampooning the hipster bike packing film might be a good place to start ....

voodoo_simon wrote:
One of my favourites
https://vimeo.com/69045994

It shows adventure (did I just type that?), scenery, a human side to the author and humour. The film draws you in, you care about the character and gives you a nice sense of achievement at the end of the film. American but not the Yee Ha guff stuff

That's one of my favourites as well. I saw it after he and his climbing partner dissappeared on a climb, I don't think they were found, assumed knocked off the mountain in an avalanche. It made his piece to camera before the river crossing when he's saying goodbye to his family in case he doesn't make it tough to watch.

Seems the BearBones spirit is alive and kicking in Alaska: have a look at the film at the bottom of the text.
http://lacemine29.blogspot.co.uk/2011/0 ... t-and.html
Time for an exchange visit, perhaps?

Chew wrote:

voodoo_simon wrote:
We need more stuff like this
https://vimeo.com/148850259

I love how that 'builds' to the punchline!

I am loving "Furious Cycling" it should be mandatory to append it to every cycling film ever.

I think this guys videos are perfect in my eyes, check out this channel:

https://youtu.be/iFTcJrragMU

He has done a fair few videos now, some of the things he does it madness and he's just so down to earth!