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Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:47 pm
by rufus748
I've never been that impressed with the ability of by hub to light my Revo lights four bulbs, it's used mainly for charging my gps.
Yesterday I rode down a steep hill with it on and the four only came on well over 20mph.
It's set up on a 29+
I've bought a volt tester which I've wired to the hub. Instructions are poor, so anyone one know which setting I should use??
Thanks

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:15 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
AC volts straight from the hub ... should output around 6v.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:40 pm
by GregMay
What Stu said. No issues with mine 2 years in.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:34 pm
by AlasdairMc
rufus748 wrote:I've never been that impressed with the ability of by hub to light my Revo lights four bulbs, it's used mainly for charging my gps.
Yesterday I rode down a steep hill with it on and the four only came on well over 20mph.
It's set up on a 29+
I've bought a volt tester which I've wired to the hub. Instructions are poor, so anyone one know which setting I should use??
Thanks
The four should come on at 15mph AFAIK, and they do on mine. I reckon it'd be difficult to test it unless you wire the voltmeter across the contacts and go riding on Tarmac.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:36 pm
by Chew
Isn't it based on rpm, so bigger wheels with need a higher speed?

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:48 pm
by atk
Which hub are you using? Exposure/SP?

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:20 pm
by Justchris
AlasdairMc wrote:
rufus748 wrote:I've never been that impressed with the ability of by hub to light my Revo lights four bulbs, it's used mainly for charging my gps.
Yesterday I rode down a steep hill with it on and the four only came on well over 20mph.
It's set up on a 29+
I've bought a volt tester which I've wired to the hub. Instructions are poor, so anyone one know which setting I should use??
Thanks
The four should come on at 15mph AFAIK, and they do on mine. I reckon it'd be difficult to test it unless you wire the voltmeter across the contacts and go riding on Tarmac.
You could try rollers. A roadie friend may have some.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:34 am
by trail717
Chew wrote:Isn't it based on rpm, so bigger wheels with need a higher speed?
Yes--and both Son and SP offer dyno hubs specifically made for smaller diameter wheels--so if one of these type hubs were unknowingly laced up to a 700/29 rim they would not produce max power at normal speed.

OP should be able to easily verify if his hub is, or is not, meant to be used with a 29 rim size--I belive both manufactures have this info on their web sites

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:13 am
by burty
i have the sp exposure hub on a krampus 29+.
all four lights are on at around 10-12 mph

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:43 am
by rufus748
Burty, I remembered when I rode with you on the WRT your lights were on all the time hence my doubts over my set up. It's taken me until now to sort it...!
Hopefully I'll have some readings soon.

If the hubs ok, anyway I can test the light separately?

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:00 am
by atk
Are you trying to charge something and run the lights at the same time?

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:19 am
by rufus748
Atk, "Are you trying to charge something and run the lights at the same time?"

No, I've got a Cyclecharge wired to the hub along with the Revo wire but only use one at a time. I'm conscious that the hub won't produce enough juice to fully power the light and charge a separate device even if it was working properly.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:32 am
by ianfitz
rufus748 wrote:Atk, "Are you trying to charge something and run the lights at the same time?"

No, I've got a Cyclecharge wired to the hub along with the Revo wire but only use one at a time. I'm conscious that the hub won't produce enough juice to fully power the light and charge a separate device even if it was working properly.
My cycle 2 charge had a fault where it would draw power with nothing plugged in. It also didn't output much charge either!

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:41 pm
by rufus748
Test results:
Direct from the hub:
10kph - 7.8
15kph -12

cycle 2 charge: 6kph - 5.16 and didn't rise irrespective of a rise in speed

Tried the light again with just the Revo lead attached to the hub and four lights only started to come on at 26kph (16mph) and were fully bright at 32kph (20mph).

The readings direct from the hub don't make much sense to me looking at the output chart on the SP website, appear to be far to high (or I've set the multimeter wrong...)

Given Burtys's light I'm thinking I've got an issue with the light rather than the hub?

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:42 pm
by JerseyMountainBiker
My revo laced to 29 rims and 2.4 Maxxis Icon only lights up all 4 LEDs at 15mph. Not sure if this is right or wring but I've had two hubs now (first one stopped working and was replaced straight away by Exposure) and both have been the same i.e. 4 LEDs at 15mph+.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:14 pm
by johnnystorm
rufus748 wrote:Atk, "Are you trying to charge something and run the lights at the same time?"

No, I've got a Cyclecharge wired to the hub along with the Revo wire but only use one at a time. I'm conscious that the hub won't produce enough juice to fully power the light and charge a separate device even if it was working properly.
My sp8 can charge my smart phone while running Google satnav and produce usable light from my Fargo when not really hoofing along.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:46 pm
by ctznsmith
All four lights on mine somewhere between 12 and 14mph with a 700c wheel and a 40c tyre.

Can test with a 29x3.0 at the weekend.

Re: Dyno hub testing

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:45 pm
by rufus748
Thanks to everyone so far.
I've emailed Exposure and I'm waiting a response.