I don't care who made it ... $300 for a steel stem is taking the pi*s, no matter how many colours it comes in.

Buuuuuuuuut, it's made in Portland, OR by bearded hipsters who drink craaaft beer.

mountainbaker wrote:Buuuuuuuuut, it's made in Portland, OR by bearded hipsters who drink craaaft beer.

Not guilty guv

It's so the frames look cheap.

mountainbaker wrote:Buuuuuuuuut, it's made in Portland, OR by bearded hipsters who drink craaaft beer.

Bit like the little bike shop in Ambleside called PUSH ,trying to sell £6k road bikes ,you walk in 3 bikes on display with art house jazz ( saying that don't mind a bit of jazz from time to time ) soon as you ask them for a basic part they scoff at you .prefer ghyllside cycles myself and biketreks if desperate .only go in so my dog can scratch his French polished wooden floor lol

Makes a hope stem at 65 quid seem positively cheap - made by dudes in Yorkshire as well

htrider wrote:Makes a hope stem at 65 quid seem positively cheap - made by dudes in Yorkshire as well

That's fighting talk.


Hope Technology Ltd.
Hope Mill,
Calf Hall Road,
Barnoldswick
Lancashire,
United Kingdom
BB18 5PX

And playing devils advocate, the cielo stem is welded by hand. The hope stem is probably churned out of a cnc machine in batches over night.

I bet thats the last time they get the work experience kid to fit the face plates!

johnnystorm wrote:

htrider wrote:Makes a hope stem at 65 quid seem positively cheap - made by dudes in Yorkshire as well

That's fighting talk.


Hope Technology Ltd.
Hope Mill,
Calf Hall Road,
Barnoldswick
Lancashire,
United Kingdom
BB18 5PX

Hope they carry spares though....

Fair dues to them I reckon, nice kit that people value enough for them to sell at a level that supports the time and quality that goes into it. I like, sorry ..

Fair dues to them I reckon, nice kit that people value enough for them to sell at a level that supports the time and quality that goes into it. I like, sorry ..

Don't apologise, they need people to like it, I like it ... it just seems like an awful amount of money for something that in reality is actually very simple to make.

And playing devils advocate, the cielo stem is welded by hand

It might be hand welded but I very much doubt someone's sat there with a file and a hacksaw lovingly carving each part, I'd imagine a cnc does that bit

Shame the colours don't quite go with my gilet.



http://www.paulsmith.co.uk/uk-en/shop/m ... gilet.html