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A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:17 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
I'm sure most of you have heard of the RAAM (teams working in relay to cross the US). Well now you race across the US east to west on your road bike with pretty much the same rules as 'we're' used to.

Oh, it's 4243 miles.

http://www.transambikerace.com/

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Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:23 pm
by Ben98
:-bd
Added to my bucket list :D

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:28 pm
by Blackhound
It is on my list for 2016, plenty of time to come to my senses! Mike Hall and Juliana Buhring are doing it who won both divisions at WCR in 2012. Peta McSharry is also down for the ladies race - she will go well. I will be rooting for Joel Martinez from Barcelona. We spent chunks of time together here and there in TD11 and finally met up in Cuba after my big day and we ended up riding to Antelope Wells together.

I have wanted to ride the US C2C for years but may just tour it before I get to old.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:35 pm
by Ben98
I saw on mike halls twitter feed that he's had electric gears fitted, where does that fit into self supported etc??

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:37 pm
by mountainbaker
A friend of mine from San Francisco is doing it this year too, it's something I'd love to do, I think it'll be 2016, same as Blackhound as I'm down for TD 2015. :cool:

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:38 pm
by mountainbaker
Ben98 wrote:I saw on mike halls twitter feed that he's had electric gears fitted, where does that fit into self supported etc??
He means Di2 I guess, not electric assist. So it's no different.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:41 pm
by Ian
Ben98 wrote:I saw on mike halls twitter feed that he's had electric gears fitted, where does that fit into self supported etc??
Provided he's the one that presses the buttons, I don't see a problem with it ;)
Just another of many electronic devices available to use on a ride. I'm more interested on how he's going to keep it charged.

Edit: or what mountainbaker said

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:42 pm
by Ben98
I was thinking more about charging, could a second battery be charged from a dynamo hub I asks myself?

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:57 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to what the average speed of this is going to be?

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:22 pm
by Blackhound
In his WCR in 2012 and TD last year Mike managed 200 miles per day. TransAM is longer but 'easier'. He must be looking at 250+ per day. He did mention a location to me for his hopeful first night's stop. You do cross the Rockies but Kansas for instance is flattish and boring I hear. 17 days?

No idea how long Di2 batteries last but Mike will have thought it through.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:34 pm
by Zippy
Blackhound wrote:INo idea how long Di2 batteries last but Mike will have thought it through.
Dynamo that's powering his revo I'm gonna guess.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:05 pm
by slowupslowdown-under
would love to do this one day as part of a team........ :oops:

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:24 pm
by ianfitz
I think the Di2 batteries last a fairly long time. If you think if the energy required to move a mech 6mm it can't be that much

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:49 am
by mountainbaker
Given that he probably won't need to change gear for the majority of the middle bit, the batteries should be fine.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:53 pm
by Son
I hear Di2 is a 'charge twice a year' sort of thing, thats what i have been told, who knows what that actually means?

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:52 pm
by Zippy
Son wrote:I hear Di2 is a 'charge twice a year' sort of thing, thats what i have been told, who knows what that actually means?
I also hear the average person does 46 miles a year...

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:43 pm
by Ben98
http://www.madison.co.uk/news/17/03/14/ ... bike-build
Post about Mikes Bike, looks an incredible machine :)

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:55 pm
by FLV
hope that compression fitting dosnt hurt his hands, or wear through the bars

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:28 pm
by jameso
I wonder what Gethin Butler would make of a race like that. Apart from short work, maybe.

Mike's bike looks amazing. Was chatting to one of Madison's Shimano blokes at the show in London about it. Really interesting as I go the other way on my bikes, minimal tech and simplify everything, here's an endurance rider making a bit of a mockery of all that. I expect he's better with electrics than I am - wouldn't be hard : )

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:47 pm
by Chew
jameso wrote:Mike's bike looks amazing. Was chatting to one of Madison's Shimano blokes at the show in London about it. Really interesting as I go the other way on my bikes, minimal tech and simplify everything, here's an endurance rider making a bit of a mockery of all that. I expect he's better with electrics than I am - wouldn't be hard : )
Mike may well have wanted to do the minimal route, but if hes getting free stuff/being sponsored it may be part of the deal. I'm not sure you would choose to go down this route. Theres no real gain to be had from the technology and if it goes wrong its not going to be as quick a fix as a traditional system.

Any other big names on the start list?
I know when we were talking to Rob Leipheimer at the Outdoorsman in Butte, he said that his brother was thinking about the Tour Divide, but this would be a lot more suitable.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:19 pm
by jameso
Could be a sponsorship thing, I think the DI2 may be linked to using hydro brakes, but if you have a dynamo powering the lights and gearing it's all a nicely closed and independent system. DI2's pretty well proven reliability-wise. No better or worse than the minimal options, just makes me think about the reasons for/against complex kit.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:23 pm
by FLV
jameso wrote:Could be a sponsorship thing, I think the DI2 may be linked to using hydro brakes.
A good point, he's sponsored by pivot so discs only on them

Theoretically, the di2 should be maintenance free shouldnt it?
I expect he might swap a chain half way but thats all?

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:56 pm
by jameso
Theoretically, the di2 should be maintenance free shouldnt it?
Yup, can't think of anything that will need doing aside from chain-related stuff.

Re: A self supported race for those with thin tyres.

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:58 pm
by FLV
didnt he only use 2 cassettes and 6 or 7 chains for the WCR?

Pretty sure some of those werent ready to be changed too.