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Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:21 pm
by TheBrownDog
Ive been using meths stoves for a couple of years but something just occurred to me: Ive never fried an egg with one. Anyone?
Tim
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:25 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
Never tried ... but I will tomorrow and let you know.
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:30 pm
by TheBrownDog
That'd be great - thanks. Might try it too. Got a little/thin alu frypan somewhere. Might try to make an omelette. Excellent - a nice little diversion from the housework.
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:18 am
by Ray Young
Yes you will be able to fry stuff. The reason I don't fry though is the mess it makes, you need detergent to wash out your pan properly which is just something else to carry or leak.
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:20 am
by benp1
When you think of meths stoves from a bikepacking perspective you typically think little red bull can stoves or similar - i.e. small light and simple
Trangias are used all over the place and are also meths stoves, I've cooked everything from a full english and stir frys through to pasta meals and stews. They're very versatile and work great, they're don't put out the sheer power of a gas stove but they're great for most things
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:51 am
by Bearbonesnorm
Speaking as someone slightly biased

... Trangias do work but they're heavy and bulky, the burner alone weighs 120g and the Mini Trangia set's 330g. Once you get into the bigger sets you're looking at 750+g even for the "ultralite" versions
The basic principle of the Trangia isn't different to any other twin wall meths stove ... it's just heavier and slower

Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:39 pm
by johnnystorm
s8tannorm wrote:Speaking as someone slightly biased

... Trangias do work but they're heavy and bulky, the burner alone weighs 120g and the Mini Trangia set's 330g. Once you get into the bigger sets you're looking at 750+g even for the "ultralite" versions
The basic principle of the Trangia isn't different to any other twin wall meths stove ... it's just heavier and slower

The trangias sole saving grace is that Teenagers really have to try hard to break them.

Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:28 pm
by benp1
I shoud have been clearer, sorry
What I meant was... you can do pretty much anything on a meths stove. You can cook anything on a trangia and people do. Its just a meths stove, not significantly different to other meths stoves, so therefore you can cook anything on a meths stove
The only exception is my vaseline tin meths stove, I doubt that would work as well as its just an open tin with wadding, there are no jets like on my red bull stoves so not sure how well it would work for frying etc. Its fine for water boiling which is the only reason I really use it
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:57 pm
by TheBrownDog
750g for a stove and kit??!! Hell, that's heavier than my new folding chair ….
So I did the egg fry test and (as Ray and others point out) you can indeed fry stuff with a meths stove. The hob is perhaps not the best real world experiment, but it fried it nicely in about two minutes (in a Trangia pan no less). About half way in I wished I had a simmer ring for my little jigger as it burns very hot, though Im sure I could just hold the pan higher up. Normally my stove burns about 7-9 minutes with around 125ml of meths which should be just long enough to do some a couple of sausages and some beans.
Then (Ray again) there was the washing up to do.

Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:14 pm
by Zippy
I have a trangia (with gas converter) and it's brilliant.
Only use it when camping with the car though

Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:52 am
by Yorlin
Cooked on a Trangia for years! Took a while to boil the pasta though...
What sort is that fancy one with the legs, Mr TheBrownDog?
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:32 am
by TheBrownDog
The stove I got about 18 months ago from a chap called Russ from Cornwall who used to sell them on ebay. It was fiver if memory serves and it's pretty good. Its made from a couple of recycled alu beer bottles. Not sure if he is still making them. The stand is a Tatonka unit - I only use it with wider pots and pans as its rather heavy for a pot stand at 120g. Been looking at those Vango ones which would double as a wind shield.
Tim
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:53 pm
by Yorlin
Ah, righto, thanks!
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:14 pm
by Farawayvisions
We use an aluminium serving platter as a wind shield for the 22g meth stove bought here on the bearbones site. This will keep the flame focused on your pan.
You can get 4 platters for a pound at pound shops! They fold up and are pretty robust.
Re: Meths stoves: how hot?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:20 pm
by Ray Young
Farawayvisions wrote:We use an aluminium serving platter as a wind shield for the 22g meth stove bought here on the bearbones site. This will keep the flame focused on your pan.
You can get 4 platters for a pound at pound shops! They fold up and are pretty robust.
Just what I do too :D .