Sorry if this has been on before....

BBC news article on Mam Tor with a section by Valerio

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0119xgzxyo

Ahaha i didnt know they were going to post that on the BBC website.

I had lot of grief on my own social media and the BBC Derbyshire social media for those clips.
People watch a video of cars parked in the middle of the road, long queues, and their first thought is: wtf why would this idiot go out on the bike in the snow.

Valerio wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:10 amwtf would this idiot go out on the bike in the snow.

Bet you ride on the pavement and jump red lights too. Bloody cyclists.

Hyppy wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 11:51 am

Valerio wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:10 amwtf would this idiot go out on the bike in the snow.

Bet you ride on the pavement and jump red lights too. Bloody cyclists.

Thats not true. I never ride on the pavement (even when marked as cycling lane).

I also send gravel riders down some techy trails and drag my bike through construction sites in rural Wales....my list of sins is endless

Valerio wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:10 am ...cars parked in the middle of the road, long queues...

Hey! They've paid their "road tax" .

They should've taken parking lessons from this chap:
https://youtu.be/3-MaC9fFtz0?feature=shared

One of my more moderate views is that toll gates should be installed on all roads into the honeypot areas with fee-paying park n ride next to them. Passes for locals, trades, walkers/cyclists and public transport. Sorted! Oh and a charge to bring a dog in, to pay for a poo-bag collecting operative .

Malham (+ cove and Goredale Scar) in the Dales is a similar honeypot - absolutely rammed on weekends but half a mile away there's hardly anyone. The national park/farmers do open the overflow car park fields that in previous years only got used for the annual show so the parking isn't so bad but the single road in and out of the dale from the south is a nightmare with bad drivers in their SUVs.

I'm not necessarily in favour of adding tolls, but for those driving, especially to areas where incredibly high numbers of cars bring a lot of disruption, then yes....I'd add tolls.
But there needs to be adequate provisions for parking and, crucially, adequate public transport for those keen to enjoy those areas without a car.

I live in Manchester (so not a remote village with no train station) and the earliest train I can get to get to the Peak on a Sunday is at 7:45am.
It has been cancelled multiple times in the past (on the day!).
Hence I either ride there or not visit on a Sunday.
Plus we're talking of £15-20 for a return.

Understandably most people decide to just drive.

I’m always surprised they don’t do more park and rides to tourist traps

PaulB2 wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 12:31 pm I’m always surprised they don’t do more park and rides to tourist traps

They do in the Llanberis Pass, Pen y Pass area. All the old roadside parking spaces that we used to use when climbing have been blocked and you have to park farther down the valley.

Way back in the 1970s there were discussions about making Langdale in the Lakes a locals only road with park and ride for everyone else but it came to nothing.