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Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:27 pm
by rando nomad
New post on Bikepacking.com about bikepacking and rafting the outer Hebrides
http://www.bikepacking.com/routes/machair-coast/
does make me look at the Alpacka raft site a bit more

Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:45 pm
by Jurassic pusher
That looks great, so many adventures, so little time!
Another to add to the bucket list.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:45 pm
by fatbikephil
Did the west coast of the Uists / Barra and Benbecular a few years ago - well worth a trip.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:52 pm
by ScotRoutes
Don't go.
It's rubbish.
July Bivvy by
Colin Cadden, on Flickr
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:08 pm
by whitestone
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:45 pm
by Alpinum
Lovely that.
Not saying to stay away from Alpacka's (use one myself) but there are some alternatives to look out for. Here for example:
http://www.packrafting-store.de/index.php?language=en
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:21 am
by Single Speed George
Di love the hebridees but never bikepacked there ( though did grow up going cycle touring there every year from before i could even ride a bike and wastowed in a trailer) more recent trips i have mostly spent climbing in Lewis etc. top place to go ! and you can basically camp on a beach nd have it to your self if you know the more secluded spots still.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:56 pm
by fatbikephil
That lot used to be the sole EU alpaca dealer. They sent one to china to copy it and started undercutting alpaca. Needless to say they are no longer a dealer....
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:45 pm
by Alpinum
htrider wrote:
That lot used to be the sole EU alpaca dealer. They sent one to china to copy it and started undercutting alpaca. Needless to say they are no longer a dealer....
At the end of '14, beginning of '15 when I got two Alpacka rafts they had just stopped supplying that lot - the Packrafting store. The store had then already been selling competitor rafts and came up with their own brand roughly two years later. Not so sure about the reasoning for Alpacka to stop working with the packrafting store. Didn't Alpacka just want to take care of the European market them selves as the grew?
In the end we got our boats directly from Alpacka and the correspondance with the packrafting store learned me that they were very disappointed to lose Alpacka as a supplier.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:44 pm
by ScotRoutes
Didn't Alpacka just want to take care of the European market them selves as the grew?
No. Andy at backcountry.scot started selling them.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:08 pm
by Alpinum
Well, Europe has a few shops, like backcountry scot, but I thought packrafting store did the distribution. May well be wrong on this.
Only Alpacka and packrafting store will know the truth.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:45 pm
by Jurassic
I have an Alpacka Explorer 42 that I bought from packraftingstore.de before they lost the Alpacka franchise. At that time they were a bit cheaper than Andy Toop and held more stock as well. They were fine to deal with, helpful and efficient. It's handy to have a source of Alpacka rafts here in the UK now though.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:43 pm
by fatbikephil
Jurassic wrote:I have an Alpacka Explorer 42 that I bought from packraftingstore.de before they lost the Alpacka franchise. At that time they were a bit cheaper than Andy Toop and held more stock as well. They were fine to deal with, helpful and efficient. It's handy to have a source of Alpacka rafts here in the UK now though.
That was part of the problem - they were selling the alpaka rafts at cost to undercut backcountry biking. Then they ripped them off hence Alpaca telling them to shove there dealership.
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:03 pm
by ZeroDarkBivi
Was in Andy's shop today - what a great little place, with some fab kit I have only ever seen online. He has a great attitude as well and I have gone from pack-rafting cynic to definitely curious now. Still struggling with the idea of my bike in a highly corrosive saline environment, and whether I could be bothered carrying the bulky safety kit I would always take when kayaking...
Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:13 pm
by Alpinum
htrider wrote:Jurassic wrote:I have an Alpacka Explorer 42 that I bought from packraftingstore.de before they lost the Alpacka franchise. At that time they were a bit cheaper than Andy Toop and held more stock as well. They were fine to deal with, helpful and efficient. It's handy to have a source of Alpacka rafts here in the UK now though.
That was part of the problem - they were selling the alpaka rafts at cost to undercut backcountry biking. Then they ripped them off hence Alpaca telling them to shove there dealership.
Alpacka made me a better price than packrafting store a while back

Re: Bike Packing and rafting the outer Hebrides
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:16 am
by ddraver
A couple of my acquaintances, thoroughly lovely pair.