Peak District ITT. developing one

[composite]

Well done Dave! Great to have something on the board to aim for.

Are there any Carno style navigation challenges and long pushes or is it all rideable with a reasonably defined trail?

Also are there any easy points to refill your water?

[Richpips]

Postby FLV » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:50 am
Route completed.

Well done Dave!

Got my dates mixed up for next weekend so might have a dabble midweek myself.

[ianfitz]

Well done Dave! Great to have something on the board to aim for.

Are there any Carno style navigation challenges and long pushes or is it all rideable with a reasonably defined trail?

Also are there any easy points to refill your water?

There's nothing quite like that on the peak route. Mostly tracks etc

There's plenty of streams at the moment if you are happy to drink. Various springs around too.

Compared to mid Wales there's a lot if cafes, pubs and shops too.

Hadfield, baslow, hope, all reasonable sized villages with facilities. Plus several pubs along the way that do food, cafes etc too.

It's possible to make small diversions to glossop, bakewell or west Sheffield which are all long enough to provide you with anything you need and plenty you don't!

Ladybower inn, fox house (burbage) and The sportsman at lodgemoor do large plates of cheapest food and are either on or not so far off route.

[D Faff Master]

East or South when leaving the start?

1. I persume East to Hope Cross
2. Then North to Hagg Farm
3. Northern Loop, Cut Gate, Woodhead, Glossop, Picking Rods, Jacobs, Barber Booth
4. Up Mam Nick road, West onto Rushop Edge
5. Then head South on the big southern loop, returning North across Big Moor, Totley Moor, Houndkirk Moor
6. Up Stanage. Through Rivelin, over to Whinstone Lee Tor and Ladybower
7. Head South, cross the dam. Follow the shoreline of Ladybower NE for a push up the Beast.
8. At Hope Cross, Roman Road to Aston.
9 Up Dirtlow Rake, Down CaveDale :)
10. Old Mam Tor Road, Mam Tor, Hollins Cross, Greenlands and finish!!

I'll be there 10am Saturday morning. Aiming to do it in a oner..... And well done FLV. And Thanks Ian for putting it together. Easter holidays start this weekend. so after a bit of rest I'll try my Peaks Super Loop 333km at the moment, takes in the West Peak and also strays into the Southern Pennines.

[Mark E]

I'll be there next Saturday as well. Hope the weather holds-the trails are drying nicely at the moment!

[D Faff Master]

Looking forward to Saturday.

I have also just put the finishing touches to what is provisionally the Dark Peak 350. So two bikepacking routes in the Peaks to try your hand at now.....

GPX here https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwjIQAp ... 1HQk0/edit

For those who have viewranger
http://my.viewranger.com/route/details/MjY2ODE=

[FLV]

Cheers all.

With all the threats of riding straight through I'd expect my time to fall without too much trouble. My current work life just meant I was too tired to push through and had to take a power nap.

mje. If the trails dry up a bit, it will be a bit faster too. several sections that I know are ridable under summer conditions were 'slime climbs' and turned into walks or just frustrated wrestles.

Composite. I agree with Ian re nav. I didnt struggle even though a lot of the trails were new in places.

[Blackhound]

I will come along. Considering starting earlier though as I will probably stay over on Friday night.

Just a rule query. Most rides of this type are point to point or one big loop. Due to passing through Edale after descent of Jacobs ladder it would be possible to resupply out of your vehicle (at a time cost for diverting). I assume this is against the rules for ITT purposes (the cache rule?). Would push through myself but wondered if this should be made clear for people going for a time.

Hoping to finish Sunday evening, will get nowhere near 24 hours.

[flat_4]

Valid point Blackhound. It hadn't crossed my mind that you could do that anyway, but I agree it's against the spirit of an ITT. There ought to be enough taps in Edale that it isn't an issue anyway.

[ianfitz]

Good point kevin.

Folk should check the rules - http://selfsupporteduk.net/

Of course you can ride it how you like but to 'get a time' ITT principles must be followed. I don't know where you 'get' the time from or where it's recorded, but you know what I mean...

Please also bear in mind the safety aspects of long hours in the saddle. You're on your own out there. Can you manage any situation that may arise??

[Blackhound]

Agreed flat_4. It is not just water. You could leave food, lights, camping equipment, change of clothing etc. I don't really mind what the rule is just as long as it is clear for everyone.

I should add that people who just want a nice ride and don't want to be bothered with a time can do as they wish to have a nice couple of days out.

Regarding time I suppose it is a 'gentlemans challenge'* perhaps SPoT tracking if people have it. Maybe for course record purposes it should be gpx track or SPoT.

* and adjustablewench

[Mike]

Good work on the route fellas just had a quick look at it on MM and its a good one, ive only ridden in the peaks a handfull of times so dont know alot of the route. Is it all riddable and where is the start ( think ive missed something in the thread ) Id love to be off and do this at the weekend but im at work and then upto Scotland. So ill have to have a go at it once im back look forward to reading about the exploits

[composite]

Good point kevin.

Of course you can ride it how you like but to 'get a time' ITT principles must be followed. I don't know where you 'get' the time from or where it's recorded, but you know what I mean...

I have knocked this up for now just to have some where to record times at least in the short term.

http://www.composite-projects.co.uk/pea ... ime-board/

I guess submit times in this thread with a link to your effort. Strava or Garmin connect or similar will be fine. I'll update the board as times come in and keep the top 10 places if that suits?

[Zippy]

Top 10 on t'internet, but I vote spreadsheet download option with full dataset. I also quite like seeing moving and stopped times - but that is being a bit unnecessarily overkill...

[composite]

Top 10 on t'internet, but I vote spreadsheet download option with full dataset. I also quite like seeing moving and stopped times - but that is being a bit unnecessarily overkill...

Well I'm a stats geek for sure but not really other peoples.
The link to the gps recording for an individual could go on the list so those who are interested can see more stats if they so desire.
About the top 10, actually once a time is up it's more work to take it down that leave it, so it could just be every one who submits sorted by time.

[adjustablewench]

Think I am going to have to give this one a miss. Life seems generally manic at the moment so I think I need a bit of time to catch up with stuff and finish my bike and bike bag for a start.

[ianfitz]

AW no probs, although you'll be missed. Will you put in an appearance to spectate/laugh at the suffering?

[FLV]

Morning.

I think whilst its nice to be able to prove your time if you feel the need, in a small 'community' that we have here it might not be strictly necessary.

There would be very little point in making it up or short cutting etc. Things like the BB 200 seems to work well on trust. Last year my HT400 finish was varified by me telling Alan and Gian confirming as my spot tracker had failed. I expect Alan may have believed me either way.

I did spot track but set to 10 min signalling it might not be accurate. I also have it on strava.

Just to be clear too. I started / finished from the A57 crossing in glossop.
Ian and I discussed this before hand. Ian confirmed that the route can be started from anywhere. So I saved myself the drive into edale.

[Blackhound]

I will not b out this weekend. My garage is leaking a couple of bodges have failed) and the guy can only come at a weekend and the rest are busy for a few months.

Will do an ITT over the summer instead. Have a good one.

[Richpips]

Hopefully I'll be there on Saturday. I've turned down a trip to the Tour of Flanders to do this.

I just need some bits from the postie to get one of two bikes trail worthy else I'll be riding on my road bike.

[ianfitz]

Hopefully I'll be there on Saturday. I've turned down a trip to the Tour of Flanders to do this.

I just need some bits from the postie to get one of two bikes trail worthy else I'll be riding on my road bike.

I'm in a similar position, thursday evening could be a late one as I've never got round to servicing and sorting my decent bike.

p.s. Rich do you know heather dawe?

[Richpips]

p.s. Rich do you know heather dawe?

Yep, known each other for years. We're off to potter down the PBW in a bikepacking style soon.

[FLV]

rich. let me know if you need to borrow anything last minute style on friday night! I'm only over chunal from you.

(Same offer for you ian but you're further away obviously)

[ianfitz]

rich. let me know if you need to borrow anything last minute style on friday night! I'm only over chunal from you.

(Same offer for you ian but you're further away obviously)

Is there anyway you I could borrow that tangle bag? I'm currently with out a bar harness and a frame bag would be ideal. If richpips lives close could he bring it to the start?

I need to buy one really!

[Richpips]

Thanks Dave, a couple of days to go and hopefully my bits will arrive in time. Else I'll give you a shout.

I'm happy to pick up the bag for Ian.