I understand the sport/competition argument. Not my point though which was just bikepacking (to me) isn't a "sport", just like a walk in the hills isn't or a paddle somewhere.

At the speed I travel, it's moot anyway

to me than dots. Dots can turn it into 'who's in the lead'

I always thought the leaders dots were notoriously unreliable and seem to pack up with remarkable regularity...

There's a whole debate to be had about the bike industry conflation of bikepacking and ITTs. In my mind, probably due to the way I amble, bikepacking and ITTs are two separate activities that happen to use similar equipment and routes in the same vein as running a marathon and going on a 26.2 mile hike.

woodsmith wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:57 am

ScotRoutes wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:21 am
My general rule is that it's a Sport as soon as you introduce a competitive element.

Agreed. People will find a way to turn anything into a p1ssing contest. I'm more of an SKT rider myself. The idea of spending two months on the Great Divide sounds far more enjoyable than two weeks.

I hold the record for the bb200 in SKT. Ask Stu... '2021 SKT bb200'

In my mind, probably due to the way I amble, bikepacking and ITTs are two separate activities that happen to use similar equipment and routes in the same vein as running a marathon and going on a 26.2 mile hike.

I just see them as two sides of the same coin.

Dave Barter wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:51 am Even though the film is desperately sh1te ….

I dunno - I found it absolutely riveting.