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Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:05 pm
by Alan63
Ray Young wrote:Sorry people, I've got man flu so won't be able to join you this year, :cry: .
Sorry you're not going to make it Ray. Hope you get better soon.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:12 pm
by Ray Young
Alan63 wrote:
Ray Young wrote:Sorry people, I've got man flu so won't be able to join you this year, :cry: .
Sorry you're not going to make it Ray. Hope you get better soon.
Thanks. Definitely miffed about missing it, would have been the eighth in a row if I'd made it.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:57 am
by ScotRoutes
It just gets better..
There is a risk of snow developing with strong southeasterly winds affecting northern UK on Saturday afternoon into Sunday morning. The snow could be heavy at times, especially over hills where blizzards may develop, and is likely to drift in strong winds. Across northern England and southern Scotland, snow may turn to freezing rain above 200-300 metres leading to widespread ice developing on Saturday night.

2-5 cm of snow is likely at lower levels, whilst higher ground could see 10-20 cm.: Possible travel delays on roads stranding some vehicles and passengers, Possible delays or cancellations to rail and air travel, Some rural communities could become cut off, Power cuts may occur and other services, such as mobile phone coverage, may be affected, A chance of injuries from slips and falls on icy surfaces, Bus and train services may be delayed or cancelled, with some road closures and longer journey times possible, Untreated pavements and cycle paths might be impassable because of black ice

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:18 pm
by AlasdairMc
Ooft. That might make for an interesting drive up...

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:21 pm
by Blair512
ScotRoutes wrote:It just gets better..
There is a risk of snow developing with strong southeasterly winds affecting northern UK on Saturday afternoon into Sunday morning. The snow could be heavy at times, especially over hills where blizzards may develop, and is likely to drift in strong winds. Across northern England and southern Scotland, snow may turn to freezing rain above 200-300 metres leading to widespread ice developing on Saturday night.

2-5 cm of snow is likely at lower levels, whilst higher ground could see 10-20 cm.: Possible travel delays on roads stranding some vehicles and passengers, Possible delays or cancellations to rail and air travel, Some rural communities could become cut off, Power cuts may occur and other services, such as mobile phone coverage, may be affected, A chance of injuries from slips and falls on icy surfaces, Bus and train services may be delayed or cancelled, with some road closures and longer journey times possible, Untreated pavements and cycle paths might be impassable because of black ice
AlasdairMc wrote:Ooft. That might make for an interesting drive up...

From the Mountain Weather Forecast: Southeasterly 45 to locally 70 mph. Very varied over short distances. Sudden gusts some lower slopes. Extensively very difficult walking conditions indeed. You could be blown over even on lower slopes in sudden ferocious gusts. Severe wind chill. May make for some interesting cycling as well!

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:39 pm
by ScotRoutes
AlasdairMc wrote:Ooft. That might make for an interesting drive up...
Or down...

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:36 pm
by AlasdairMc
Blair512 wrote:May make for some interesting cycling as well!
Hence the fat bike...

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:24 pm
by Blair512
AlasdairMc wrote:
Blair512 wrote:May make for some interesting cycling as well!
Hence the fat bike...
I only have plus :|

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:17 pm
by fatbikephil
Cool
As long as we can get to Dalwhinnie it should be good. Sunday looks OK so nay probs getting home.....
any idea what time you'll hit the pub in Newtonmore?

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:20 am
by AlasdairMc
At a guess maybe 4ish. It’s 20km from Dalwhinnie to Newtonmore but pace will depend on a number of factors. When do you think you’ll be up?

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:59 pm
by Blair512
Are we still planning a pub stop at the Glen hotel in Newtonmore? I think I'll set off fairly early to miss the worst of the snow, may head straight to Newtonmore if the weather is really shitty but hoping it's not as bad as it's being made out.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:04 pm
by ScotRoutes
I thought Newtonmore was drink and food? Assuming that, what time do folk expect to leave for the bothy?

I'm waiting to see what the weather brings before deciding how far to ride. Nothing of my route down is particularly exposed, though the headwind will still be a pain and I can only pray we don't have last years snowfall.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:08 pm
by Blair512
ScotRoutes wrote:I thought Newtonmore was drink and food? Assuming that, what time do folk expect to leave for the bothy?

I'm waiting to see what the weather brings before deciding how far to ride. Nothing of my route down is particularly exposed, though the headwind will still be a pain and I can only pray we don't have last years snowfall.
Assuming Alasdair's guess of 4 o'clock at Newtonmore do we say leaving from there around 5:30/6 to head to the bothy? Route to be decided depending on conditions

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:10 pm
by ScotRoutes
Sounds like a plan. There are 3 potential routes.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:14 pm
by Blair512
ScotRoutes wrote:Sounds like a plan. There are 3 potential routes.
The ones you mentioned earlier in the thread? I'm just plotting them into my garmin just now if so. Looking forward to this so long as the snow doesn't get to mental! :-bd

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:19 pm
by ScotRoutes
htrider wrote: Could be a chilly one but doesn't look like a snowy epic is on the cards :cry:
Ha Ha Ha

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:21 pm
by Ray Young
Regretfully my cold is getting worse instead of better so definitely a no show for me tomorrow. Thanks for the offer of a lift Alisdair and you all have a good time now.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:31 pm
by Blair512
Ray Young wrote:Regretfully my cold is getting worse instead of better so definitely a no show for me tomorrow. Thanks for the offer of a lift Alisdair and you all have a good time now.
Sorry to hear that Ray, hope you feel better soon

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:33 pm
by AlasdairMc
Today I tried to start my van. It didn’t.

Hopefully all will be well by tomorrow...

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:35 pm
by Alan63
Folks, I'm calling off too. Don't think taking an 11 year old out in the conditions forecast would be a good idea. We'll definitely be joining you in better conditions. Enjoy the weekend.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:57 pm
by AlasdairMc
Alan - I’m sure we can make the logistics work if you want to start from Kingussie or Newtonmore, or shuttle as close to the bothy as possible.

On my part I’ve got the AA guy arriving shortly so I’m still hopeful that I’ll be along tomorrow.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:02 pm
by ScotRoutes
AlasdairMc wrote:Alan - I’m sure we can make the logistics work if you want to start from Kingussie or Newtonmore, or shuttle as close to the bothy as possible.
Yep - it's an easy 8km from the Glen to the bothy via the shortest route - most of that on tarmac.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:27 pm
by Alan63
ScotRoutes wrote:
AlasdairMc wrote:Alan - I’m sure we can make the logistics work if you want to start from Kingussie or Newtonmore, or shuttle as close to the bothy as possible.
Yep - it's an easy 8km from the Glen to the bothy via the shortest route - most of that on tarmac.
Thanks for the kind thoughts Alasdair and Colin. We've had a chat about calling off and Fraser understands why. Hopefully we can meet up another time.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:00 am
by ScotRoutes
Alan63 wrote:
ScotRoutes wrote:
AlasdairMc wrote:Alan - I’m sure we can make the logistics work if you want to start from Kingussie or Newtonmore, or shuttle as close to the bothy as possible.
Yep - it's an easy 8km from the Glen to the bothy via the shortest route - most of that on tarmac.
Thanks for the kind thoughts Alasdair and Colin. We've had a chat about calling off and Fraser understands why. Hopefully we can meet up another time.
I'm definitely up for that. I'm hoping to do a bit more roaming around next year anyway.

Re: Scottish Winter Bivvy.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:04 am
by ScotRoutes
Roll Call

AlasdairMc (if the van starts :lol: )
htrider +2
Blair512
jamiep
oakesme
ScotRoutes

I'm sure we should all fit in the bothy.