Re: Bike Fit
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:23 am
Following up. I've ridden around 1500 miles on road as well as the usual MTB miles since making this change (in the same shoes on all 3 bikes I ride currently) and I'm unlikely to move the cleats forward again to the original spot. I went from a mid-position in some Giro shoes that match up pretty well to Shimano's slots to the rearward holes in the plates positioned withing 3mm of the rear of the shoe slots. 12-15mm further back than before.
I made some notes on my early impressions and they all still apply -
I feel better in technical riding situations as my calves are less stressed, I'm more neutrally balanced on my feet. Bunny-hops, floating over roots etc have become a bit easier and more consistent when tired. It's a closer match to how I used to ride on flats pedals.
I lowered my saddles 4-5mm maybe and this has helped add comfort since my saddle-bar drop is a little less. The cleat change also effectively slackens off my seat angle if the cranks stay the same length (ie on my SS) and this feels good. I've always liked steeper seat angles but the further I ride, the more I like to get back behind the BB to help neutralise my weight on the front.
I've built and ridden good mileages on a new road bike with 170mm cranks (and a revised seat angle to closer match my Jones, this cleat thing and other ideas) - yet my legs / feet are in a very similar position as when I had 175s and a more fwd cleat. The shorter cranks are better for long days spinning along and I don't feel a loss of low-cadence power due to the foot/cleat position.
Power output feels better, or at least more consistent, during a long day but I'm not sure if this is actual or perceived. I think this change has helped 'even out' my pedaling, ie I don't spin up to speed as fast or sprint quite as well, but over a long day I'm more even in my output as I've not burned up as many matches earlier in the ride. It's all minor differences but I'm pretty sure it's there. I'm not a natural spinner/sprinter at all so maybe this set up just suits me better.
Conclusion - my cleats were too far fwd to start with? : ) They were centre-slightly forward in the shoes anyway. Now I'd be tempted to say 'start furthest back and go fwd from there if it feels too odd'.
I made some notes on my early impressions and they all still apply -
I feel better in technical riding situations as my calves are less stressed, I'm more neutrally balanced on my feet. Bunny-hops, floating over roots etc have become a bit easier and more consistent when tired. It's a closer match to how I used to ride on flats pedals.
I lowered my saddles 4-5mm maybe and this has helped add comfort since my saddle-bar drop is a little less. The cleat change also effectively slackens off my seat angle if the cranks stay the same length (ie on my SS) and this feels good. I've always liked steeper seat angles but the further I ride, the more I like to get back behind the BB to help neutralise my weight on the front.
I've built and ridden good mileages on a new road bike with 170mm cranks (and a revised seat angle to closer match my Jones, this cleat thing and other ideas) - yet my legs / feet are in a very similar position as when I had 175s and a more fwd cleat. The shorter cranks are better for long days spinning along and I don't feel a loss of low-cadence power due to the foot/cleat position.
Power output feels better, or at least more consistent, during a long day but I'm not sure if this is actual or perceived. I think this change has helped 'even out' my pedaling, ie I don't spin up to speed as fast or sprint quite as well, but over a long day I'm more even in my output as I've not burned up as many matches earlier in the ride. It's all minor differences but I'm pretty sure it's there. I'm not a natural spinner/sprinter at all so maybe this set up just suits me better.
Conclusion - my cleats were too far fwd to start with? : ) They were centre-slightly forward in the shoes anyway. Now I'd be tempted to say 'start furthest back and go fwd from there if it feels too odd'.