Lawmanmx wrote:hey, if that works for you then get stuck in
but lets not get started on the bad stuff in meat when ALL fruits and Veggies are sprayed with every toxic chemical known to man!
i personally have been on the keto diet for coming on 2 n a half years and can tell you 100% it works, and all my bio markers are tip top (unlike when i was on carbs) ... i can understand the Ethics behind being a veggie, but we are pre disposed to eat meat (that is what we are all made from)
I'm not saying your diet wont work, and there's evidence that ketosis is good for endurance athletes, I read a lot of Peter Attia's stuff about it, very interesting. Out of interest, how much time are you actually in Ketosis? Are you very strict?
As for "lets not get started on the bad stuff in meat when ALL fruits and Veggies are sprayed with every toxic chemical known to man!". That's not strictly true, and even if you do eat non-organic, pesticide laden fruit and veg. Think how much more grain/legumes/corn livestock eat (there's no exact answer, but it's roughly 16:1 ratio of animal feed to meat produced), and how all those toxins bioaccumulate in the meat. I didn't go vegan specifically for the ethics of it, it was more about health, and most importantly about the environmental impact of animal agriculture. Something that everyone should think about, IMHO.
At the end of the day, I think the most important thing if you actually want to make real changes is to remember that "everything in moderation" is BS, you'll only get moderate results.
when i say i Live it, i TRULY live it 
