the lightweight outdry is flimsy but not so flimsy I would expect it to shred in crash - not entirely confident how it would do with an interaction with thorns but its not paperweight like shakedry.
the normal outdry is more robust than most other materials without going to full Gortex levels of protection- ruining it off road would not be amongst my concerns personally and it will survive a crash - trust me on that front

It's more the membrane being on the outside, and thus in my eyes at least, more susceptible to damage. Pretty much all my jerseys and what not have obvious interactions of spiky, thorny, things on the arms and shoulders...

I will bow to all of your actual experience of it though.

its a weird sort of rubberised material almost plasticky so fairly strong

my outdry titanium thing is anything but fragile. far tougher than a goretex jacket it replaced, and nowhere near as sweaty.

I keep looking online for Out Dry jackets since they receive much praise on here. I have absolutely no idea how the model range is named and how to identify what's what

'Titanium' seems to pop up a fair bit but searching for that term throws up loads of different jackets.

https://www.columbiasportswear.co.uk/p/ ... _color=030 The heavy one

https://www.columbiasportswear.co.uk/p/ ... _color=010 The light one

I think that's all they do now. There used to e a few other ones - titanium etc - but they all got dropped a couple of years ago.
Worth keeping an eye out as they often get discounted.

I totally get that they are probably good value when used a lot for a long time, but they are eye-wateringly expensive though aren't they? There's no way I could stretch to that money, or want to either...so assuming if I wanted one for under £100 for instance it would be sacrificing one of packability/durability/weight/breathability?

I've tried a few sub £100 waterproofs over the years and they all seem to be pretty rubbish - poor breathability and a tendency to wet out in anything but light or brief rain. Keela Saxon was the latest experiment and it was hopeless. It's annoying really as in the good old days you could get proofed and taped nylon jackets cheap as, which were sweaty but at least kept the rain out....

faustus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:00 am I totally get that they are probably good value when used a lot for a long time, but they are eye-wateringly expensive though aren't they? There's no way I could stretch to that money, or want to either...so assuming if I wanted one for under £100 for instance it would be sacrificing one of packability/durability/weight/breathability?

If you don't give a sub standard about it being white, yours for £47.50...
https://www.bbclothing.co.uk/en-gb/colu ... N95qvLtC3U

totally get that they are probably good value when used a lot for a long time, but they are eye-wateringly expensive though aren't they? There's no way I could stretch to that money, or want to either...so assuming if I wanted one for under £100 for instance it would be sacrificing one of packability/durability/weight/breathability?

Not a p1ss take but a bin bag is my last ditch line of waterproof defence. Been a few rides where one's made a very real difference.

Columbia's outdry range and the models within it always seems to have been badly marketed / differentiated.

It also seems the halcyon days of all the cheap ones have ended, somewhat, though they still seem a little marmite and maybe discounts will be available (wrong time of year really for waterproofs as we head into autumn and winter).

I have several and don't think I paid over £100 and often closer to £50. Saying that I rather like the look of that orange one and, if the others weren't still going strong, would be prepared to part with £150 for it.

Shame they don't do trousers of the same material. One criticism for more general hill use is they tend to be a little short. Not such an issue on a bike but they don't tend to cover your arse.

There are trousers out there, never seen them myself but they do exists apparently

The Irish chap who won this year's Spine race had a matching suit on

I think the outdry trousers have been discontinued - there is nothing listed on the Columbia website

Amazon US has some in stock though

https://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Outdry- ... s_li_ss_tl

There's no way I could stretch to that money, or want to either.

Waterproofs are like tents and sleeping bags - its really worth paying the money to make sure they actually do work and can be relied on as nothing worse than wet, not sleeping or sold all night IMHO.
I suspect an outdry is going to work out at about a tenner a winter- likely to never need replacing as no DWR so that has assumed a ten year lifespan - happy to pay that to be dry
YMMV

Yeah, I can certainly understand it and not being DWR is a major plus. Just find it difficult to spend that much on clothing and its more of a mental block having never really spent that much before. But then again, last time I did spend that on outdoor clothes was my trusty Buffalo special 6 shirt, back in 2003. That's been fantastic. So kind of disproving my own point!

In general i agree that most cycling gear is just a rip off and almost all my tops are from Aldi [ or huge reductions in sales] but I will pay for waterproof stuff

Just updated my thread on the delamination I've got on my Outdry jacket: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21607

Feel I should mention it since I've recommended it.