jobro, have a panda. Now move on. It's not worth getting angry on the internet.

ssnowman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:56 pm Given up on it now. I don't think I'm the right demographic

So are you selling issues 1, 2 and 3

redefined_cycles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:13 am

ssnowman wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:56 pm Given up on it now. I don't think I'm the right demographic

So are you selling issues 1, 2 and 3

I only bought two of them, but that's enough to know that it's not for me. Surprisingly, I found it difficult to obtain here in London where everyone rides singlespeed fixies

I've kind if read issues 1-3, but for me it's more looking at nice pictures and routes - kind of aspirational for places and landscapes rather than bikes and stuff. The bikes and stuff recommended/advertised I do find laughable from a price perspective. The content is also written from a kind of roadie / inexperienced off-roader perspective, which isn't useful to me particularly. Might flick through it in Smith's if they have it...But I have a gravel bike and some aspirational/trendy velo orange mudguards so maybe I am a target market

Slightly off topic, but just past where that picture was taken, so behind the camera man, the cliff is more of a 45 degree slope of mud and sand. One evening when riding up to the road I heard the sirens behind me and it was the coastguard and police. Once up on the road I stopped and as ate a snack I watched as they proceeded to hammer in ground anchors and attach back-up ropes to the pick-up and spread ropes and gear about. A dog had gone down the slope and was 'stuck' some 60 or so feet down.

After about 20 minutes of graft the coastguard rescue was ready to go and started to abseil down the slope. The rescuer had got no more than 15 feet down when the dog spotted him, and ran back up the slope to the top and their waiting owner. Perhaps they should have tried holding up a sausage sandwich first to lure him up

jobro wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:46 am

Be cool, not a tool

Clearly your idea of being cool isn't the same as mine.

Chuff me that's a thin skin you've got there Clearly I should have littered my post with more emojis to get it across so in hindsight:



Though I think Greg's probably battering the proverbial six incher into timber better than I did

Most of us are Gravel Wankers I’d have thought

Pretty much my default bike

Most of us are Gravel Wankers I’d have thought

Aye, I'd reckon on a good number would have some such tucked away in the shed.

I sold mine because I loved it but needed / wanted a bigger one.

I'm glad I helped someone else become a gravelwanker and feel no shame

Piemonster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:26 am Most of us are Gravel Wankers I’d have thought

Pretty much my default bike

I've put the panaracer gravel tires in 32mm on my roadie and thats what I class mine as. Taken me on some decent off road that I'd previously only thought do-able with the mtb. Hard work though and wouldn't (some of them particular off road sections) wish them on anyone (coming from an only-roadie background).

In fact I'm gonna be getting my next set of grvl tires for it soon... for the winter and slipperier sections...

Confirmed Gravelwanker here. Shewie is even sending me one of his spare stickers for my bike as I don't have one. It will be displayed with pride on my lovely Titanium Gradventourer.

I too was guilty of a bit of aggregate onanism on Sunday:

Actually not really into gravel wanking. I prefer mountainbiking.
But since it's fashion, I got one too;



"Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen" Edwin Bormann
A nice way to say each to their own.

You are the biggest gravelwanker by far!

Well, I am old so I do not have a gravel bike.
I have an old cross bike as befits my age. It does get ridden on gravel but it doesn't have those new-fangled disc brakes.
The second half of gravelwanker is however something I apparantly am judging by the number of times I get called it....

Cheeky Monkey wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:28 pm You are the biggest gravelwanker by far!

Wait 'till I put on some of those bikepacking bags. You know, those Ortlieb ones.

#mostwankerestgravellist
Shame hashtags don't work with exclamation marks.

To be honest. I've had the penny for quite a while now and shame, still no multi day trip done with it.

Now, let's remember just how far in front of the curve we really are here ... in 2013
https://bearbonesbikepacking.blogspot.c ... acker.html

and then in 2016 we were banging 650b wheels and big tyres on while many in the industry said it couldn't / shouldn't be done.
https://bearbonesbikepacking.blogspot.c ... great.html

In fairness, this perhaps means that we're the biggest #Wankers of all.

I never got any gravel Taylor stickers!
Got any left Stu?

Bearbonesnorm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:08 pm Now, let's remember just how far in front of the curve we really are here ... in 2013
https://bearbonesbikepacking.blogspot.c ... acker.html

and then in 2016 we were banging 650b wheels and big tyres on while many in the industry said it couldn't / shouldn't be done.
https://bearbonesbikepacking.blogspot.c ... great.html

In fairness, this perhaps means that we're the biggest #Wankers of all.

Please may I add my very own claim to fame. When only Hutchinson were making tubeless tires for road bikes, I went full on tubeless-roadie. Yo yhe disgust of my roadie freinds who are also now tubelessed on their roadie-bikes. 2018 I think it was (or 2017) and about 6 months before the Schwable Pro One Tubeless came out. feel quite priveleged at that and this (being part of the forum.. and, now, a gravlr)...

NB. Turns out you don't actually need grvl bars to make your roadie into a grvlr... Just sold these at a decent rate on ebay and happy with my carbon Sworks* on the grvlr..



*well, tolerant as maybe I don't know any better!

Got any left Stu?

I'll pop you some int' post.

At the risk of getting serious for a moment, I think that at the point that I start to need more tyre than the 700x43 that I'm currently Gravelwanking on I'd be better off on my 29er hardtail MTB. That for me is where all the gravel marketing and hype falls down. Marketing a gravel bike as a do it all replacement for a mountain bike and a road bike is disingenuous imho. For the most part a mountain bike is better off road and a road bike is better on road. A gravel bike is a compromise bike and that won't suit everyone despite what the glossy mags and marketing gurus try to tell us.

Ah well, depends what you mean by “do it all” doesn’t it.

I’ve lived in a couple of places where a GW bike would genuinely fit the Do It All Bill. And I’d say the majority of cyclists I’ve know they’d also be a Do It All bike. But then, those same cyclists don’t really venture beyond fairly timid bridleways. And they’re certainly not planning routes with 2 hour long boggy death marches!

Jurassic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:26 pm despite what the glossy mags and marketing gurus try to tell us.

Salsa Cutthroat: Gravel bike or serious off road machine, or 'just' a grvlBike? I only ask cos Karl did the NorthPeaks100 on his so its obviously doable but I wondered whether I made the route too easy (and thus, potentially boring/rubbish)...