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Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:42 pm
by boxelder
I have a Spot3 with tracking if anyone is looking to hire one?

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:24 pm
by padonbike
HI BoxEdlder - yes interested in a spot 3 to hire. waiting entry for Cairngorm Loop so could do with one for CG and then a month later HT.
Rather hire than buy outright.
Let me know

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:58 pm
by AlanG
I've added some more names to the startlist for the group start next May. I'll probably pick another four from the remaining "wild card" entries and leave some places reserved for people with a "qualifying ride".

Women
1. Jenny Graham (2015)
2. Amy Souter
3. Fiona Massey
4. Jill Libby, Canada
5. Marketa Marvanova, Czech Republic
6. Shona Oldfield

Men.
1. Phil Clarke (2014,2015)
2. Ian Barrington (2013,2014)
3. Paul Horabin
4. Eric DeJong, Canada
5. Dan Lockery, Canada
6. Martijn Boonman, Netherlands
7. Kenny Decker, U.S.A.
8. Rob Waller (2015)
9. John Fettis (2015)
10. Hal Loewen, Canada
11. Zbynek Simcik
12. Fraser MacBeath (2015)
13. Gian Liesch, Switzerland (2013)
14. Carl Hutchings (2015)
15. Javier Simon (2015)
16. James Stephens (2015)
17. Marshall Bird, U.S.A.
18. Huw Oliver
19. Keith Bremner (2014)
20. Karl Booth (2015)
21. Nik Kinloch (2013,2014)
22. Phil Fraser-Thomson (2014,2015)
23. Thomas Borst, Germany
24. Ian Fitz
25. Gabriel Mak
26. Alan Sheldon (2013)
27. Adam Zaviska, Czech Republic
28. Liam Glen
29. Scott Lindsay
30. Philip Addyman
31. Chris Purt
32. Andy Laycock
33. Stuart Cowperthwaite
34. Bryan Singleton (2015)
35. Mark Evans
36. Andy Lawrence
37. Steve Field (2015)
38. Alan Goldsmith (2013,2014,2015)
39. Lars Henning
40. Donald Nicolson

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:12 pm
by fatbikephil
Thats a fair few overseas people in for it. Will add quite a cosmopolitan air to the proceedings :-bd

Shoes - my advice is to wear something you can walk comfortably in up a 30 degree rocky slope and for 3 hours over a boulder field, whilst carrying you bike....

Used shimano mt34s this summer and were pretty good for the money. MT91s for the highland trail tho

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:00 am
by ton
I sat and traced the route out on maps last night. this is one hell of a route. I did not realise how big until I spread the maps out as one on the floor.
proper hats off to anyone who does this in under 7 days.

just in the process of trying to coax 2 riding pals into having a go with me, but in 10 days. with a aim to set off on the Tuesday or wednesday prior to the event start.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:56 am
by GregMay
Ton - you'd be fine in 10 days. Just remember that the top loop can be taken out and you can ride the "old" HT440 route and still get 85% of the hike a bike in :)

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:13 pm
by AlanG
Greg, you haven't ridden the northern loop have you?!

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:22 pm
by GregMay
AlanG wrote:Greg, you haven't ridden the northern loop have you?!
Not all of it no :) I've run chunks of it though.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:53 pm
by ianfitz
AlanG wrote:Greg, you haven't ridden the northern loop have you?!

From the bits of of I've been over on foot I'd be very surprised if anyone has ridden all of the northern loop ;-)

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:37 am
by larsmars
AlanG wrote:I've added some more names to the startlist for the group start next May. I'll probably pick another four from the remaining "wild card" entries and leave some places reserved for people with a "qualifying ride".
I am thrilled and terrified to be added to the list! :-bd

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:19 pm
by Karl
lars thats excellent news that you'll be joining us on the highland trail this year.

See you on the start line

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:40 pm
by slarge
Looking at this thread with jealous pangs. It's a brilliant route, but so easy to underestimate. Good luck and get the training done and you'll be fine!

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:19 am
by trail717
I have been doing a bit of HT homework most evenings, reading blogs* Googling the route looking at location/pictures, waypointing Bothys on my file etc etc, fun way to spend a bit of time.

Also I have been reading about midges and repellents with saltidin (known as picaridin here in the US). Apparently 20% saltidin is slightly more effective against midges than similar concentration of deet.

Whats the overall experience with 20% saltidin repellent vs the mighty Scottish Midge? Is this repellent sufficient to do the job in all cases? What if any seem to be the limitations?

Also does anyone have 1st hand experience with a fully "screened" Z-Pak Hexamid tend vs the midge? I strongly assume the Z-Pak screen’s weave is fine enough to keep the little biting pests out? Would be shame if I bring mine and it didn’t perform as needed.

*Thanks and double wow Ian, your 2013 race write-up was an eye opening nail biter, impressive race and nicely written. And yes a 2nd to Aidan is a big deal. Not even close to his caliber but in 2010 I had the pleasure of sharing a dinner with him at Seeley Lake and later saying hi and bye in Lima as he pushed thur.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:19 pm
by mountainbaker
Marshall and anyone else who'd like to view the route on 1:25k OS maps, send me a private message, I've put a small mapping application I've written up online, you can load any GPX into it, and it cache's tiles from OS at both 1:50 and 1:25k, really useful, and much more detail than you'll find on any other maps. Other layers are available in it too...

Here's some of the route:

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Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:07 pm
by fatbikephil
RE midges the best stuff is Smidge - http://midgeforecast.co.uk/smidge/about-smidge You can buy it at the garage shop in tyndrum. Non chemical so not as nasty as deet based stuff and it does work.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:32 pm
by deft punk
htrider wrote:Non chemical...
It is. Uses that saltidin stuff your man mentioned. Autan has the same chemical, works as well & is half the price for twice as much, but...
It doesn't have that lovely bog myrtle smell & the container can't take the same battering

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:37 pm
by ScotRoutes
Autan doesn't seem to be as effective for as long, so I've found you need more of it :lol:

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:37 pm
by GregMay
Autan is not as effective in my experience either.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:27 pm
by boxelder
Not a single midge last year - too cold and windy.......

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:06 am
by deft punk
ScotRoutes wrote:Autan doesn't seem to be as effective for as long, so I've found you need more of it :lol:
So far I've only found that if I'm sweating & if I'm sweating I'm probably shifting and more likely to inhale a cloud of them than be bitten by one :lol:

Ticks however seem to love me no matter what I slap on :???:

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:13 am
by trail717
For some reason I get the general idea it might be a just bit 'wet' riding around in the Highlands....... :shock:

Some type of front & rear mud guards seems like a good idea. However I have zero experience with them, other than what little shielding my bikepacking bags inadvertently provide.

How many will be running some (any) type of mud guard? Comments on why yes or why no?

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:33 am
by ianfitz
Mud guards - yes!

Rear mudhugger. Front neoguard and fat gut fender.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:54 am
by GregMay
trail717 wrote:For some reason I get the general idea it might be a just bit 'wet' riding around in the Highlands....... :shock:
Understatement of the week.

I didn't bother to run guards. You're going to get wet. Brought waterproof shorts though - suck it up buttercup.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:36 pm
by Mark E
I'll have a rear mud hugger and some sort of down tube guard for the front. Past experience has taught be that keeping the pad in your shorts dry really helps with comfort! Will probably also have waterproof shorts on as well-I've found the gore alp x ones really good and longer lasting than any others ive tried. Worth holding out for a sale though as they're expensive at RRP.

Re: 2016 Highland Trail route.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:57 pm
by Ian
Guards help things stay less gritty.
Sure, you may still end up being wet, but being wet and gritty is worse...