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Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:44 am
by whitestone
Anyone else use marzipan as trail food? Since it's oil based it doesn't freeze quite so quickly and it doesn't fall apart in to crumbs

I've used it on winter alpine climbs down to -15C, kept it in my jacket pocket and grabbed a bite as and when I felt peckish. Not exactly a slimmer's food though!
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:08 am
by voodoo_simon
Not a fan if marzipan but that sounds like it will be worth carrying. In cold or miserable conditions, any food is good

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:01 pm
by Aidan
RE: Brakes...
I would avoid hydraulics, myself. I think Jeff Oatley used them in the ITI, but he lives in those conditions so he can make sure his setup works. Unless you take both and test them before the race (and have the conditions you want for testing in that time), you're taking a risk. The advertised operating range of hydraulic fluid doesn't take into account the moisture that will be in there if they have been used elsewhere. I've had hydraulics (Shimano, mineral) nearly lock themselves on, and I know of people who have had them lock on in cold conditions.
So cables make sense. In Alaskan snow, icing of cables was never much of an issue. It's normally too cold for liquid to get in anywhere that would cause a problem.
If you're a real weight weenie, you could probably live with just one brake. Cue debate about which one...
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:25 pm
by paul78
Aidan wrote:RE: Brakes...
I would avoid hydraulics, myself. I think Jeff Oatley used them in the ITI, but he lives in those conditions so he can make sure his setup works. Unless you take both and test them before the race (and have the conditions you want for testing in that time), you're taking a risk. The advertised operating range of hydraulic fluid doesn't take into account the moisture that will be in there if they have been used elsewhere. I've had hydraulics (Shimano, mineral) nearly lock themselves on, and I know of people who have had them lock on in cold conditions.
So cables make sense. In Alaskan snow, icing of cables was never much of an issue. It's normally too cold for liquid to get in anywhere that would cause a problem.
If you're a real weight weenie, you could probably live with just one brake. Cue debate about which one...
Got to be front :)
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:13 pm
by Joshvegas
Nah coaster break...
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:42 pm
by voodoo_simon
Also worth noting, velo solo do a spare sprocket that fits into the disc side to turn the bike into a fixie. Handy if the freehub packs in
http://www.velosolo.co.uk/shopdisc.html
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:02 pm
by Alpinum
Dot like in Avid/SRAM will work to lower temps. No problems down to -25 C on var. Bikes with Avids. Friends with mineral oil had issues, they mostly showed up beyond -15 C (not the friends, the issues). But Finland and Alaska are a different beast...
Aidan, what temperatures did you experience on last years ITI?
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:24 pm
by Ben98
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:09 am
by Ian
Very helpful that, cheers.
--
A friend sent me a link to another useful article:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=6903
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:19 pm
by andreas
stumpled upon this the other evening,
might be some useful info.
Cheers
Andy
http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/01/ ... her_358172
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:53 pm
by voodoo_simon
Just singlespeeded the fat bike using a 28 sprocket (from a cassette) with a 22 front ring and it can only be described as 'spinny'. Only rode two miles home from the shop and the pavement sections were painfully slow, but felt ok (a little too low) on the long grass sections, so maybe just right for the snow?! Using a sprocket from a cassette is still open for debate as the chain came off once
On the insurance question, I've now e-mailed the BMC for a quote but they've yet to get back in touch

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:31 pm
by johnnystorm
Fingers crossed for the BMC response.
Not convinced about single speed it must be said!
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:44 pm
by voodoo_simon
Quick update, BMC says no! The chap on the phone was puzzled why I was asking a climbing organisation for cycle insurance
Austrian alpine club insurance is also a no go
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:50 pm
by ianfitz
voodoo_simon wrote:Quick update, BMC says no! The chap on the phone was puzzled why I was asking a climbing organisation for cycle insurance
Austrian alpine club insurance is also a no go
That's a bit odd as their higher altitude and ski insurance also covers mountain biking. We used them this year for our alps trip because of that exact reason...
Is the exclusion due it being a race
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:55 pm
by whitestone
From
https://www.thebmc.co.uk/modules/insurance/Default.aspx
What's not covered
"Competitive winter sports "
Though the Covered activities include: "Adventure racing (up to 48 hours)" and "Cycle racing"
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:46 pm
by voodoo_simon
That's the bit I was getting confirmed as the cycle racing comes under their winter insurance category. Bit odd they'll insure someone to do Everest or some remote mountain in the Antarctic but not a relatively safe race in Finland. Oh well, dog tag insurance it is at £95

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:07 pm
by johnnystorm
voodoo_simon wrote:Oh well, dog tag insurance it is at £95

Bugger!

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:19 pm
by Ian
Sports Cover Direct are showing £67 to £94 depending on level of cover required. That's for mountain bike competition in Finland specifically
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:01 pm
by Taylor
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:32 pm
by Matt
Look further up

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:51 pm
by paul78
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:11 pm
by Bearbonesnorm
That ^ Paul, looks fantastic
The cowled drop-outs on the forks are a lovely touch.
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:21 pm
by Ian
Never mind the dropouts - where did you get penguin rim strip from?!
Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:38 pm
by Zippy
Ian wrote:Never mind the dropouts - where did you get penguin rim strip from?!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Duck-48mm-9-1m- ... B00DB2GGJI
Smart bike Paul, I like it

Re: Rovaniemi 150
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:48 pm
by Ian
Amazing - never knew such a thing existed. Lots of pattern choice too.
Indeed - that is a smart bike. Pink cables are good - I should be able to identify you at a distance
