Kit list ... Mach' N Back.

[Bearbonesnorm]

I reckon - 10 was about right ... remember you'll lose a degree or so for every 100m (we were somewhere around 400). I'd also imagine our location would put us in a prime position for a temp inversion. The same week the temp dropped as low as -16 and daytime temps didn't rise above -6 for over a week.

Fantasticmrmatt wouldn't have noticed just how cold it was due to the northern overcoat he had on

[Taylor]

Best pack your waterproofs.
http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/W ... /long.html

[Anthony]

.....and summer sleeping bag looking at those temperatures

[Nick]

I reckon I'll wait till the 13th before looking at the forecast and deciding what to pack!

[griffdowg]

FF - How reliable is that norwegian website? Its now looking like its going to turn again and be cold. Mach is also close to sea level and the bivi spots are 3-500m so its going to be a cold one. 0 to -1 at night and around 5 in the daytime but with sun? surely not! Sun?

I was hoping to use my 2 season bag, but its now looking like the down monster is coming out!

Met office haven't got that for with their forecast yet, but Thursday night will be zero degrees C. Should have a better picture in a day or 2.

G

[Anthony]

Final kit list sorted now for the weekend. Largely packed an ready to go

Bars - 5L Drybag (If weather turns- 8L Drybag + Montane Down Jacket)
PHD Minim 600 sleeping bag, Freezer Bags x2,

Waterproof Map Case
1:25k Maps printed on waterproof paper.

Camelbak
2L Bladder,Ti Mug inc Lid, Mug cosy, Caldera Stove Windshield, Water Filter, Food*, Compass, 10ml Chain, Lube, Book tbc.
1L Drybag containing- Helly Hansen Boxers, Evening Gloves, Fleece Beanie, Merino Evening Socks, Buff, Helly Hansen LS Base Layer, Spare matches

Framebag
Photon1 Tent, Pegs, Neoair Regular, Food**, Caldera Meths Stove, 200ml Meths, First Aid Kit,
10m spare cord, Bike Tools, Bike Spares inc. 2 tubes, Ti Lhoon, Pole Repair Sleeve, Pump, Pour & Store.
1L Drybag containing- Matches, Head Torch, Spare Batteries, Mobile Phone, Ear-Plugs, Ipod Shuffle, Toilet Roll, Money/C-Cards.

Additional
Bike Light - Front Bike Light - Rear

* Food
Dehydrated Meal x1, Cous Cous 80g, Coffee Bag x1, Sugar, Tea Bags x2, Torq Gel x3.

** Food
Snack Nuts, Cadbury Cereal Bars x2, Cliff Shot Blocks x2, Nutrigrain Elevens' x3, Energy Bar x2, Nutrigrain x1, Oatsosimple x1, Oat Musli, Milk Powder.

[Bearbonesnorm]

That's a very thorough list Anthony but I believe you've missed a tin of 'Acme Bivvy Gimp Repellant' ... remember people he could be anywhere and no one's safe

[Matt]

very thorough indeed! Even got earplugs, why would you ever need them? :)

[Anthony]

Photon1 in wind = Noise :D Ear-plugs weigh 1g per pair.

Fortunately though Gimps cant get into tents, it's the zips that flummax them.

[valleydaddy]

ear plugs think of the extra weight!!!

[griffdowg]

Following on from Ants list, here is mine. Everything I own seems to be a little heavier and the drops mean I cant get much over the bars. I also cant get my winter bag under the seat so im going with my 2.5 season!

Bars
9L Drybag: Thermarest Trail lite regular, Terra Nova Tarp, Pegs/cord, Rab Storm Bivi.

Memory Map GPS running 1:25k on bars with regular computer

backed up with Garmin Geko and 1:50k paper map in the backpack.

Osprey Talon 22 backpack
Primus Eta Stove, Snowpeak mug Rab Nutrino plus down jacket :? (to compliment my sleeping bag) Mountain Equipment Matrix jacket, Berghaus overtrousers, Rab long sleeve layer. HH Thermal top and bottoms (for sleeping). Sealskinz gloves, Rab lightweight gloves, Rab beanie, buff, money, phone, headtorch, tissues.

Framebag
Spare Batteries, cable ties, multi tool, chain tool, 2 tubes, pump, 1st aid kit, Pico solar battery charger, Leica D-Lux 3 camera, jelly babies, cereal bars :)

Under seat
Mountain Hardware Lamina 35 sleeping bag, thermal liner, 2 rehydration meals.

Dont know what im doing about water yet. Can carry 1.25L in the cages but im going to need more for Sat night. Either purifier (500g) or cart 2L from Mach.

G

[Taylor]

Which way are you headed out of Mach for the night Griff?

[griffdowg]

South East.

Looking at the 1st (trees) or 2nd (high up, by rocky outcrop) spot in that line of options heading south east.

I have planned for the 2nd, we will see. Water sources look ok up there so I may risk it for a biscuit.

G

[Taylor]

Looks like theres water at Glaspwll and just beyond then it gets a bit more sparse.

[Anthony]

Griff dont forget your Spork/Lhoon/Spoon type implement :idea:

Kit looks good, it'll be a good test for the new stuff :)

Re. water, it'll start off with 2L in the camelbak and will keep it topped up at any opportunity with the Travel Tap filter (151g) I normally carry.

[griffdowg]

Griff dont forget your Spork/Lhoon/Spoon type implement :idea:

Kit looks good, it'll be a good test for the new stuff :)

Re. water, it'll start off with 2L in the camelbak and will keep it topped up at any opportunity with the Travel Tap filter (151g) I normally carry.

Thanks Ant. I did think "crap, I forgot to pack my Lhoon!" then I remembered the folding spork in with my stove so not to worry. Dug out a small bottle of iodine and those taste tablet things. Will use a milbank bag to filter. My 1st need filter/purifier is just too heavy to pack for 1 night (500g).

No water on my back, going with bottles but I reckon my backpack weighs in around 3.5-4kg

G

[Bearbonesnorm]

Water shouldn't be a problem ... with a little common sense nearly all the water you come across will be fine to drink without treating.

Forecast's looking good ... dry and cold. Expect temps down to -5 on the higher ground :D

[Anthony]

Dry and cold sounds perfect to me.

[valleydaddy]

Right here goes:

Seat pack

Tenth Wonder insulated Hammock
Alpkit Rig7 Tarp
6 pegs and para cord
Sleep mat
Foil survival blanket for insulation
tiny tarp for on floor use, sitting/changing socks etc

Bar bag

Montane insulated jacket with hood
Tesco down sleeping bag (-5 rated) I am a hot sleeper so should be fine
Thermal HH sleepware
Merino socks
Buff
Wash kit including ear plugs
bog roll
Glasses
Sewing kit
Socks for day 2


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Alpkit gamma
Ear plugs
Maps and compass
Spare batteries
Cash
Pico solar charger
Blackberry
Spare gloves
Altura leg warmers

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2l hydration bladder
Bike tools and spares
Stove and gas cannister
Pot
Fold up mug and spork
Waterproof matches
Super noodles
Porridge portion
Homemade fudge
Hip flask of whisky
More nibbles to be decided
Coffee

Lights

Exposure maxx-D and Diablo

[/b] GPS [/b]

Garmin Etrex 30

Planning of getting a good feed in Mach so won't need much in the evening just a warming snack and nibbles

[Anthony]

I thought I was rediculed for the ear-plugs, but 2 sets? Really? :D

[valleydaddy]

Haha I am setting up camp near an alleged lad snoring bear so one for me and the other to stuff up hs nose!!!

[Taylor]

Things I leant:
Don't rely on electronic GPS (a second map source should be carried as a backup)
If you leave a bit of kit at home you'll end up really needing it
The bridleway from Elan valley to Moel Prysgau Bothy is spectacularly bleak and unridealbe
Taylor's mate snores very loud
Always listen to Ian when it comes to routes in Wales
Moel Prysgau Bothy is very nice and the MBA do good work
Homemade custard based dehydrated desserts don't really work
Somebody somewhere makes Titanium hip flasks
Stuart is retired
iPhones can get surprisingly wet and still work
MemoryMap is expensive but very good

Read the fourth line Pete, it wasn't me despite Dan's pleas/lies.

Unless you mean Si?

[Bearbonesnorm]

I'm loving the optimism ... solar chargers :D

[valleydaddy]

Stu the pico holds a charge so is ready to power dump to recharge a phone gps etc in an emergency, really light. I picked one up for £3 the other day :D

Ear plugs are an an emergency "I need sleep device" it also stops me hearing Flatfish laughing at comedy films on his i-Phone :)

Really looking forward to it :D

[Bearbonesnorm]

Stu the pico holds a charge so is ready to power dump to recharge a phone gps etc in an emergency, really light. I picked one up for £3 the other day

Handy thing Pete, you'll be able to top up the flat ones TV

I've just been to pick up part of the 'emergency supplies'