Alpkit Airo failure - Advice Needed

[greenmug]

Hi, I have a short Airo which has had four outings (five nights). All fine until There-n-back where I had the pleasure of replacing air several times during the night.

On return home I went about detecting the hole with the use of the bath tub. I found not a single hole but a larger general area on the underside where air is escaping. Maybe 10+ sources of bubbles.

Given that I was forced by flatfishy to kip on tiled floor rather than in the -6C outside that I would have preferred (cough), and that I always have mat inside bivi, I'm confused how this has happened.

Any similar experiences?

Any advice on how to stop it happening again?

[Bearbonesnorm]

If there's no damage, holes, etc to the bivvy bag and no abrasion marks on the mat, I'd suspect that the material is porous.

Have a word with AlpKit, I've not heard of any Airo failures before.

[Dan_K]

Had seam failures on Peak Elite AC where it's slowly lost air.
As the warm air/breath in mats cool it becomes denser so you always loose some pressure.

[jameso]

Same thing happened to my thermarest. Was fine for years, then after one airless night out I checked it in water and found 12 tiny holes. Must've been something tiny and spiky growing there? Took a while with the seamgrip to sort that. My neoair has been put in an area where in the light of morning I found loads of debris that should have flatted it yet it's fine. Luck I think?

[Taylor]

I didn't make you sleep on the floor, you could have spooned up to me all night if you'd asked.

[ScotRoutes]

Had seam failures on Peak Elite AC where it's slowly lost air.

I'm on my third.

[Nick]

Have a word with Alpkit, I had a Wee Airic delaminate a couple of years ago, they asked for a pic and the asked me to send them the nozzle cut from the mat (presumably to prevent someone taking the piss). It was over a year old for sure.

A couple of days later I got a new mat, which is still going strong. Great service, no hassle etc.